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Case 1:15-cv-Agted? Bian dm GaonettReporsin g fe Wines /Erc.Page 52 of 89 Page 197 Page 199 1 Q (BY MS. MENNINGER) Correct? 1 was going to be trained as a masseuse and that she 2 MR. EDWARDS: Are you finished with your 2 instructed me to take off my clothes and to give oral 3 question? 3. sex to Jeffrey Epstein. 4 MS. MENNINGER: Now you may make your 4 Q_ (BY MS. MENNINGER) Excuse me. I've asked 5 objection. And then she may answer. 5 you for the names. 6 MR. EDWARDS: Okay. Objection. 6 A __ I've just given you a name. Jeffrey 7 Argumentative. Harassing for absolutely no reason. 7 Epstein is a big name. 8 Mischaracterizing the witness's testimony. 8 Qs Allright. 9 Answer, if you can. 9 A __ She instructed me on that one. 10 A Ihave given you the names of the people 10 Q_ So you're saying -- 11. that Ghislaine herself has told me to go be sex 11 MR. EDWARDS: The witness is finishing her 12 trafficked to, along with Jeffrey Epstein, okay? 12 answer right now. She's in the process of explaining 13 She's the one who brought me to Jeffrey 13 one of the people Ghislaine told her to have sex 14 Epstein to be trafficked in the fucking first place. 14 with. 15 So I have given you as much information as 15 Q (BY MS. MENNINGER) So you're saying 16 I possibly can to let you know what she was about, 16 Ghislaine Maxwell directed you to have sex with 17 who she told me to go with, what she wanted me to do. 17. Jeffrey Epstein? 18 That is what I am stating and that's what I 18 A Correct. 19 previously stated to you. 19 Q_ Ghislaine Maxwell directed you to have sex 20 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) And these names that 20 with Glenn Dubin? 21 you have just given are people to whom Ghislaine 21 A Correct. 22 Maxwell alone told you to go have sex? 22 Q_ What words did Ghislaine Maxwell tell you 23 MR. EDWARDS: Objection. 23. +to go have sex with Glenn Dubin? 24 Mischaracterization. 24 A __ It was the same all the time, all right? 25 A __ Ghislaine and Jeffrey, I don't know how 25. They want me to go provide these men with a massage. Page 198 Page 200 1 many times you want me to keep answering this 1 And when they say massage, that means erotic, okay? 2 question. Both told me to do this, okay? They both 2 That's their term for it. I think there are plenty 3 sent me to these people. 3 of other witnesses that can attest to what massage 4 How many times do you want me to answer 4 actually means. 5 this? 5 And I'm telling you that Ghislaine told me 6 Q. (BY MS. MENNINGER) I think you're 6 to go to Glenn Dubin and give him a massage, which 7 answering a different question so that's why I'm 7 means sex. 8 going to ask you again. I am not asking you anything 8 Q_ Okay. So Glenn -- Ghislaine Maxwell told 9 about a time when Jeffrey and Ghislaine together told 9 you to go give a massage to Glenn Dubin? 10 you to go do something. I'm asking you to name a 10 A Correct. 11 single time during which Ghislaine Maxwell acting 11 Q__ That's your testimony? 12 alone directed you to go have sex with another 12 A __ That is my testimony. 13 person? 13 Q. Allright. Ghislaine Maxwell told you to 14 MR. EDWARDS: Objection. Asked and 14 go give a massage to i, correct? 15 answered. Harassing. Argumentative. 15 A Correct. 16 A __ I've given you the names of the people 16 Q__ Ghislaine Maxwell told you to give a 17 that Ghislaine instructed me to go have sexual 17 massage to Prince Andrew, correct? 18 relations with. I am not discluding (sic) the fact 18 A Correct. 19 that Jeffrey also told me. 19 Q__ Ghislaine Maxwell told you to give a 20 Ghislaine told me from her mouth to do 20 massage to Bill Richardson, correct? 21 these things. Jeffrey told me from his mouth to do 21 A Correct. 22 these things with these people. Ghislaine instructed 22 Q. When did Ghislaine Maxwell tell you to 23 me to do the things that I did with Jeffrey Epstein 23 give a massage to Bill Richardson? 24 on the very first meeting that I had with him. She 24 A I don't know dates. 25 brought me there under the preclusion (sic) that I 25 Q Where were you? VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 50 (197 - 200)