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Case 1:15-cv-Agtes? Ban dm GonettReporsin g Se Wines /Erc.Page 80 of 89 Page 309 Page 311 1 A Yes. 1 the same. Maxwell strongly denies -- excuse me. 2 Q When? 2 Excuse me -- strongly denies allegations of an 3 A In 2011. 3 unsavory nature, which have appeared in the British 4 Q_ Allright. And is she affiliated with an 4 press and elsewhere and reserves her right to seek 5 office or a hospital or what? 5 redress at the repetition of such old defamatory 6 A She's a psychiatrist. 6 claims. 7 Q_ All right. Have you seen her in person 7 Q_ Allright. Have you seen this statement 8 since 2011? 8 before? 9 A No, because I've lived so far away and 9 A I've seen it recently, yes. 10 she's kind of the only person that -- like, I've seen 10 Q_ Allright. What -- have you discussed 11 a lot of doctors. And I can honestly tell you -- 11 this statement with Ms. Lightfoot? I don't know if 12 it's really hard for them to break down the walls and 12. she's a doctor or what. 13 be comfortable enough to talk to them about this 13 A _ Psychiatrist, yeah. 14 — stuff. Judith is different. She's somebody that I 14 Q_ Isshean MD? 15 feel I can trust. She's 76 and she's just a very 15 A I don't know what her levels of credential 16 lovely lady. 16 are. I'm sure she is. 17 And she offers me other ways to deal with 17 Q_ Okay. When is the first time that you saw 18 my pain and suffering. And I continue to see her 18 the statement? 19 over the phone because I can't see her in person. 19 A _ This full statement I have only seen 20 Qs Do you recall ever discussing with her 20 through discovery. The original statement that I saw 21 Defendant's Exhibit 26? 21 in the press was, Ms. Roberts' claims are obvious 22 A I can't recall ever seeing this exhibit. 22 lies and so on, so forth. I don't remember seeing 23 So -- 23 this in the press. 24 Q_ Okay. 24 Q_ Okay. So the part that you remember 25 (Exhibit 27 marked.) 25 seeing in the press is Ms. Roberts' claims are Page 310 Page 312 1 Q_ (BY MS. MENNINGER) I'm going to give you 1 obvious lies? 2 Defendant's Exhibit 27. 2 A Yes. 3 A Yes. 3 Q_ Anything else about this? 4 Q_ Allright. Have you seen this document 4 A __ I can't remember what else she printed in 5 before? 5 the press. It's a very horrible thing for her to do, 6 A Yes. 6 turn around and call me a liar after everything that 7 Q_ And what do you understand it to be? 7 she knows she's done. And I didn't expect her to 8 A TER sounds like a PR, if 8 come out and be truthful. 9 I'm not right -- if I'm not wrong. Sent -- or 9 Jeffrey Epstein hasn't even issued a 10 — subject is Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't know 10 statement. 11 Po 11 Q_ Sorry. I'm sorry if you misunderstood my 13 It says: To whom it may concern, Please 13 A Yes. 14 find attached credible statement on behalf of 14 Q_ ‘Was there anything else within this 15 Ms. Maxwell. 15 statement that you recall seeing in the press besides 16 And then it goes on, to hear about that 16 the line, Ms. Roberts' claims are obvious lies? 17. she is saying: Each time the story is retold it 17 A Without saying 100 percent, I think that 18 changes with new salacious details about public 18 the original allegations are not new and have been 19 figures and world leaders and now it is alleged by 19 fully responded to be shown to be untrue. I don't 20 Ms. Roberts that Alan Dershowitz is involved in 20 know if that's in the press or not, but I've read 21 having sexual relations with her, which he denies. 21 this before. 22 Ms. Roberts' claims are obvious lies and 22 So I don't know if I'm confusing this with 23 should be treated as such and not publicized as news, 23 what I've read out of this or what I've read in the 24 as they are defamatory. Ghislaine Maxwell's original 24 press. The main thing is, I know she called me a 25 response to the lies and defamatory claims remains 25 liar, and that's what she publicized. VIRGINIA GIUFFRE 5/3/2016 78 (309 - 312)