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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1325-11 Filed 01/04/24 Page 8 of 18 JOSEPH RECAREY - CONFIDENTIAL MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Yes, there was. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Okay. Describe for us what the pattern was that was told to you by the 30 or so girls that you interviewed? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Initially, when the -- when the victims would come into the home and were brought upstairs to provide the massage, Epstein would lay on his massage table, where they would start to rub his back and the back of his legs. Epstein would either attempt to fondle the girls or touch the girls inappropriately, and at which point he would masturbate. And when he was done, he would get up and go wash off while the girls would get dressed and go back downstairs and get paid. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Okay. So did you determine that "massage" was actually a code word for something else? MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES