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From: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com>
To: "Nikolic, Boris"
Subject: Re:
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:47:30 +0000
hows 4 est
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Nikolic, Boris <
> wrote:
Agree.
In matter of fact, the use of barter still exists. Some sites such as Craig list
are using it. It is not predominant mean of trading on these sites but exisits.
Making a global (and focused) Barter site could be big.
It would be cheaper (cuts conversion/transaction costs) and perhaps preceived as
more fair (as you said money is like vagina - you would still get it, but
without seeing it).
Money should be still used to cover final transaction cost to the site (although
even barter could be used there).
Can you talk any time between 1pm and 2:30pm PST - 4-6:30EST your time?
B
From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto
Sent: Wed 12/9/2009 12:44 AM
To: Nikolic, Boris
Subject: Re:
ffin only as a quasi currency.. barter is the biggest , Ebay makes no sense it
need no computing power only , listings.--- if you want a boy and i want a girl,
, we should simply exhange one for the other, however one of us is going to have
vaue left over.. ( obviously debatable, which one ).
however it is rare to
find a perfect barter partner, what we should do is have a computer say , boris
you deliver the girl, jeffrey the boy, sam a car, melanie a watch, and make the
switch .At the essence money is only to account for the difference of value in
what we have to trade. when should we speak?
oris
> wrote:
I was thinking of FFM for a while. I love that system. Taxes are the
problem,
although IRS has already placed some system in place. In addition, if
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becomes a
bigger issue governments would place new taxes if system becomes bigger.
Nonetheless, in my mind taxes are the smaller problem.
I) Also, aren't FFM awards taxable? As far as a direct tax on the award
user,
the most recent IRS ruling states (with some equivocation) that free
tickets are
taxable IF they are earned in the course of business travel AND they are
used
for leisure travel. This rule has proved too difficult to apply, so
enforcement
has been practically non-existent. For the future, though, we should
never
underestimate the government's appetite for tax revenues.
More importantly, the recently enacted 1997 Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997
attempts
to tax FFP transactions covertly. This new excise tax took effect on
October 1,
1997, and will have a significant effect on airlines and their marketing
partners, and on the frequent travelers who participate in frequent
flyer
programs. For a number of reasons, this change to the tax code went
largely
unnoticed (and uncontested) by legislators and the general public. It
has been
dubbed the "stealth tax," a moniker which well conveys its
insidiousness. While
there is still considerable discussion and debate about the
interpretation of
the new law as it applies, e.g., to the use of miles by the host
airlines
themselves, and to the sale of miles by foreign-based programs, the
following is
generally understood and accepted: When a program partner (airline,
hotel, car
rental company, credit card, etc.) gives miles to a program member, the
partner
must purchase those miles from the airline that operates the frequent
flyer
program. The new law imposes a 7.5% tax on that purchase.
2) The creation of meta PPM program would be interesting. However, here
we comes
to the problem that to me is bigger than taxes: In my mind the bigger
problem
is all program partners include language in their FFP member materials
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that
states that FFP mileage, coupons and tickets may not be sold, bartered
or
otherwise transferred for any type of consideration. At one time, this
was a
$150 million-a-year business. It continues, but on a much smaller scale
because
the airlines have aggressively pursued and prosecuted the brokers,
sellers and
buyers.
It is very interesting to analyze the history of FFP, how they become,
what and
when enable them (very recent history). From early cigarette coupons and
various
stamps to modern credit card associated FFP.
Nonetheless, I still prefer some kind of conversion to information.
Please let me think about that. Have few huge deadlines this week,
which sucks!
Will call you tomorrow,
Re the second part of your email - I did not know that you are into
elimination
of discomfort, disease, or poverty!!!
Boris
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From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 12/8/2009 9:09 AM
To: Nikolic, Boris
Subject:
frequent flier miles. is another form of world currency.. problem is
taxes,
there is no system to tax trading in miles. so the gov't will
eventually go
crazy.. //The best work of the foundation would be to create
money/value to be
used to eliminate discomfort. disease, poverty. , there is no reason
that a new
form of distribution , can't be created. There is no shortage of food
medicine
, or information, at the moment the only thing available to the poor is
info.
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