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From: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com>
To: John Cacioppo
Subject: Re: thanks.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:08:32 +0000
i don't disagree.. my questions arise with regard context.. both temporal and relational. cooperation and altruism
my be enhanced by repeated interaction, but the strength of the input,ie chopping of the hand of the thief. in
public view, seems to have a more immediate effect on group behavior.
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:42 PM, John Cacioppo
wrote:
Jeffrey,
No disagreement, we have described a multidimensional slice (a scientific model) to model a much higher dimensional
space. I understand you may regard the theory or approach we take to be too simple to be of interest, but I would like
to leave you with two observations. First, your comments speak to the scientific enterprise itself. I am attaching a short
piece on this that I hope you enjoy.
Second, the temporal component is inherent in the longitudinal analyses and in many of the mechanism we have
proposed. For instance, the contagion of loneliness is the accrued effects of interpersonal behaviors over time. One
interaction would not be sufficient to produce many of the effects we described in our studies, which is why these
studies cover as long as a decade. You have to admit that these are not exactly your typical psychology study. Some of
the effects would, though, because of the second temporal component we discuss - evolutionary time. Our tendency
to affiliate with and support other humans serve an adaptive function, especially in the area of self-defense because of
the safety provided by large numbers who stood together against threats and attacks. Consequently, we have argued
that the mind is not born a blank slate but rather we have feelings of pleasure in affiliation and feelings of displeasure
when deprived of interaction with others. Together, this biological carrot and stick promotes social contact and
sympathy — and a mind that is better understood in terms of its connections with others than as an isolated
information processing organ. Our might derives from our actions as a connected collective rather than as the sum of
our isolated actions. Yes, cooperation and altruism are enhanced by repeated interactions and accountability, but
cooperation and altruism can also be found in single trial games and in single slices through everyday life — especially
when conditions exist that promote empathy or shared identity (e.g., ingroup identification). "Educated" individuals
tend not to be the ones who show these behaviors because they tend to analyze the exigencies and behave rationally,
but the notion of network reciprocity in evolutionary biology has emerged to help explain such data. The environment
is also a critical component in both these time periods, I would never argue otherwise. For instance, the notion that
affiliation has an adaptive function implies environmental variation is important.
Have a great New Year,
John
On 12/26/09 8:38 AM, "Jeffrey Epstein" <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
I've now completed my homework assignment„ thanks„ from a system view, it seems a little narrow to define
successful strategies, without a temporal component or an environment . the environment to include availability and
extent of resources. altruism does not work without repeated interactions. cooperation doesn't work with very
limited resource. Like the quorum triggers, for cells , minions for Jews, jury selection for jurisprudence. critical phase
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transition behaviors seem to play a signifiant role. Many of the proposed strategies and explanations appear as a slice
through a multidimensional figure. I'm not sure what theory it truly describes.
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