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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1328-12 Filed 01/05/24 Page 19 of 35 trust issues, expectation issues. Q. Did you observe Nadia Marcinkova and Ghislaine at the house at the same time? MS. MENNINGER: Objection, leading, form. THE WITNESS: don't recall. BY MS. McCAWLEY: Q. On the USVI trip, the second trip that you took, do you recall Nadia Marcinkova being present? A. I believe she was present at that trip. Q. Do you recall Maxwell being present on that trip? A. Yes. Q. Do you know an individual by the name of a: Yes. And who is [i She was one of the girls that was around. Q. Was QJ around both Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell? A. I don't recall. Do you recall where you first met Jy In Palm Beach. At Jeffrey Epstein's home? Yes. MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES