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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1328-42 Filed 01/05/24 Page 4 of 5
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MR. CRITTON: Form.
THE WITNESS: No, not that I can remember.
BY MS. EZELL:
Q. Do you know if he and Mr. Epstein were
involved in any businesses together?
A. Mr. Epstein, I never knew what businesses he
was involved. He will -- I was completely shut off of
all of the business, except for the office, transfer of
communications or faxes. But I have no idea of the
relationship with other business partners.
Q. Did you ever have to deal with his -- the
office in New York with someone named Lesley in Ne’
York?
A. The secretary?
Q. Yes.
A. Yeah. I would call -- I would call Lesley
almost every day or other secretaries, they live in New
York. Basically it came a point when Mr. Epstein will
call New York and New York call me to do things for
Mr. Epstein. But he was on the phone or busy or
something and he would call the office and the office
will send me an e-mail or call me or -- it was a
constant report with the office in New York.
Q. And did you in turn sometimes call New York t¢
get a message to Mr. Epstein?
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Diane's secretary, she stay there for a week with her
kids and we took care of her.
Who else? Mr. Trump. That's a celebrity.
Mr. Robert Kennedy, Junior. Mr. Frederick Fekkai.
Q. Who is that?
A. Fekkai, Frederick Fekkai, the famous
hairstylist. Who else? I don't think I can remember
anymore.
Q. David Copperfield, the magician?
A. No, Inever saw him.
Q. You never saw him.
Now, would these -- the people that you named
were all people that you saw visiting in the home?
A. Yes. Also was a Noble Prize winners, the -- I |
can't remember his name. It was an old gentleman. He}
was a Noble Prize, chemistry, I think, or mathematics.
There was a couple -- a couple of those, very -- also,
we had at one time at the house, it was a reunion of
very Noble Prize winners. But I don't know. They're
not famous, I guess. I can't remember their names.
Very important people.
Q. Was that a dinner or a reception?
A. I think it was a lunch.
Q. A lunch.
President Clinton, did you ever --
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A. Yes.
Q. Did you ever overhear Mr. Epstein talking to
any people that you would consider celebrities?
A. Yes. I knew some -- many celebrities.
Q. Who -- what celebrities did you understand
that he spoke with?
A. He spoke to it?
Q. Yes.
A. I don't know who he spoke to because I never
listen to his conversations. But I saw guests at the
house that were celebrities.
Q. Who did you see at house?
A. Many. It was QD 1 was
fF It was Prince Andrew. It
was Princess Sarah.
Q. Princess?
A. Sarah, the wife of Andrew.
Q. Sarah Ferguson?
A. Ferguson.
And it was a couple Misses, Misses Yugoslavia,
Miss Germany that I don't even know the names. But the
were a lot of queens and other famous people that I
can't remember. It was a very famous lawyers that I'm
sure you know, Alan Dershowitz, who spend at the house
couple times. And he slept there. He -- Princess
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A. I met President Clinton on Mr. Epstein's plane
in the last, I think it was the last month or just
before I left -- I left, I met President Clinton in
Miami at his plane. We drove him to Miami.
Q. And do you know, was that a trip -- were they
going on a trip to Africa?
A. Thear about it, but it was not when I was
there.
Q. So that was not the time that you drove --
A. No, I was already out.
Q. And Kevin Spacey, did you ever meet him?
A. No. I hear about it on the news, but I never
met him.
Q. Were Prince Andrew and Princess Sarah friends
of Ms. Maxwell?
A. Both of them.
Q. Both Ms. Maxwell and Mr. Epstein?
A. Yeah.
Q. Did -- did they ever have massages when they
were there?
A. Prince Andrew did. I think Sarah was there
only once and for a short time. I don't think she slept
in there. I cannot remember. I think she was visiting
Wellington and she came to the house and we met her.
But Prince Andrew, yes, Prince Andrew spent weeks wit!
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