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O©OMINIHDUYBRWNE NNNNNRFRPRPRP RRP RP RRP RB BWNHFCOMDIKHRTBRWNEO Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1328-42 Page 45 MS. EZELL: I'm going to ask -- I don't know whether you've still been serially designating Exhibits or whether we're doing them separately for deposition. MR. CRITTON: I think we cannot trust that people will do them serially. I'd do them with each one. MS. EZELL: Then would you mark this, please, as Exhibit 1 to this deposition. And I'm just going to state on the record that I will keep that original. We will not attach it to the deposition. (Exhibit number 1 was marked for identification purposes and retained by Counsel for the Plaintiffs.) THE WITNESS: Yes, that's -- BY MS. EZELL: Q. Can you identify that -- the young woman in those pictures? A. Yes. Q. Who is it? A. That's V. -- V. Now that you says R., that is V.R. definite, a hundred percent. MR. CRITTON: Let me just note my objection, as I did in A. Rod's deposition or Mr. Rodriguez's OIYNUBWNHR Filed 01/05/24 Page 3 of 5 Page 47} THE WITNESS: Could have been. But, you know] I am not -- I don't think I am a very good judge of ages. If you ask me how old you are, I really couldn't tell you. MR. CRITTON: Kathy thinks she's 25. MS. EZELL: In my dreams. THE WITNESS: Now, again, I must tell you, I was never told to check any i.d.s on any of the people who work at the house. BY MS. EZELL: Q. Lunderstand that. And, so, I think I'm just trying to establish that you didn't consider it part of your job description to worry about or consider the ages -- A. No. Q. -- of the young women that came there? A. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Q. And, so, you never really focused on that or particularly thought about it if they seemed young? MR. CRITTON: Form. THE WITNESS: I don't -- I didn't see that many young girls, you know, young, underage girls at the house. I never saw except the two girls that I mentioned that I think it was underage was N. for sure because she was still in high school. OID BWNEH Page 46 deposition, that I know you're going to confiscate Exhibit number 1. I think it's inappropriate. I think I should be allowed to have a copy of Exhibits that are being used in deposition. But I'll file a motion with the Court so we don't get into a pulling match over your Exhibits. MR. BERGER: I would ask that the court reporter initial that. MS. EZELL: Sure. Oh, you did? MR. WILLITS: She marked it. MR. BERGER: Did she put her initials or did she just put a number or a letter? MR. CRITTON: She's nodding that she did everything that she usually does, which means, initials, date and number. MR. MERMELSTEIN: You can talk. MR. WILLITS: But when you talk, use your initials. BY MS. EZELL: Q. How old did you think V.R. was at the time she began coming to Mr. Epstein's home? A. She could have been 17, 18, 19. Q. Could she have also been 15? MR. CRITTON: Form. ODNHHOBWNH NNNNNNRPRPRPPRPRP PPB B QLRWnFOOAIHHUGHVBWNRO Page 48 And she -- she had dinner with her mother, a couple times with her mother. And she become an actress. She's an actress and she has done movies. And he help her in her career. That's the only girl that I knew she was young because she was going to high school and I pick her up from high school sometimes. But she was not a massage therapist. She will go for dinner. And they will go for the movies and she sang sometimes because she was a singer. So she sung at the house. Beautiful girl. Very talented. That's the only girl that I know that it was -- I would says, underage. BY MS. EZELL: Q. Okay. Did -- who told you that V.R. was a massage therapist? A. Nobody. Q. Did you assume that she was a massage therapist because you were told she was coming to give ft massage? A. No. L assumed she was a massage therapy because I was -- I drove Ms. Maxwell to Mar-a-lago, Donald Trump's residence. And I wait in the car while Ms. Maxwell got a -- I think it was a facial or massage. I don't know. But that day I remember this girl, V., 12 (Pages 45 to 48) (561) 832-7500 PROSE COURT REPORTING AGENCY, INC. (561) 832-7506 Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377-676-2895) Electronically signed by Sandra Townsend (401-377-676-2895) 76ef564a-4a1c-4dee-87ac-479898cc; GIUFFRE000 102