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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1331-15 Filed 01/05/24 Page 13 of 27 WOMNAUDWNHE Page 363 I don't know which room, sir. Q. Okay. Did you recognize both the girls or just one of the girls? A. The two girls. Q. Then there were -- there was one or two other photographs of girls that you recognized? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And were they fully unclothed or did they have some degree of clothes on and/or off? A. They were naked. Q. All right. And all of the remaining pictures at least within that mosaic were of individuals that you did not know? A. No, sir, Q. And that you did not recognize as having been at the house. Is that correct? A. Yes, that's correct. Q. You were also asked about some -- let me switch for just a minute. You were asked about a vibrator that you saw, and I think you described it as a back massager that was approximately 18 inches long that had a couple of rotating heads on it. A. Yes. Page 364 Q. And I think you ultimately came up with the idea as it was something you had seen at like a Sharper Image store. A. Yes, sir. Q. Have you ever seen one of those types of devices, that is a back massager with the rotating heads also sold -- well, let me ask you this. Strike that last question. Have you ever been to Brookstone? A. Yes. Q. Okay. Have you ever seen a massager like that at Brookstone? A. Yes. Q. Okay. You were asked whether Ms. Maxwell kept the names of any of the girls who came to give massages on -- let me ask it this way. WONAUDWNHHE Page 365, pilots, masseuses, chefs, so she have a copy of the black book with herself and as well as the computer. Q. Did you ever go on Ms. Maxwell's computer to see what she had in it? A. Yes. Q. And was that something you were allowed to do? A. No. Q. Okay. You actually went in her office? A. Yes. Q. And was her computer on so that you didn't need to access the password? A. It was off. Q. Okay. So you just turned it on? A. Yes, sir. Q. And then you were able to access her computer? A. Exactly. Q. And what possessed you to go in and to access her persona! computer? A. Ineeded to send some documents to the New York office and it was the only computer working in the house. Q. Okay. And how many occasions did you use Page 366 her computer? A. Several times. Q. Was she ever aware that you used her computer? MR. LANGINO: Form. THE WITNESS: I don't think so. BY MR. CRITTON: Q. Did you ever ask Ms. Maxwell for permission to use her computer? A. Iwas the house manager, I believe I was supposed to use everything in the house to accomplish my duties, in that case sending financial reports or e-mails. Q. So would you have been -- did you ever use Mr. Epstein's computer? ink you were asked whether Ms. Maxwell ever kept the names of any of the girls who came to give massages and I think your response was yes. A. Yes, Q. Okay. Did she keep them on a pad of paper, did she keep them in a notebook, did she keep them in a computer? A. We used to have internal books for A. No. computer? A. Yes. Q. Did you ever use Ms. Kellen's computer? A. Yes. Q. In looking at Ms. Maxwell still, you went into Ms. Maxwell's computer with at least the idea of sending some documents? Pages 363 to 366) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000339 GIUFFRE001029