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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1331-15 Filed 01/05/24 Page 15 of 27 CMPNAMAWNE Page 371 New York what were you doing getting to names and phone numbers and then pictures of girls? A. Iwas trying to get some information. I was working the computer and I just happen -- they have the icon of the file and I open and it was right there, so I was not looking but, you know, it was already accessible to me. Q. And how many photographs did you then scroll through to look at? A. Probably 30. WOMINADAHAWNE 11 Q. Okay. And why? 11 12 A. Just curiosity, sir. 12 13 Q. Soagain, you never told anyone other 13 14 than your wife? 14 15 A. No, Biol 16 Q. Correct? 16 17 A. Yes, correct. 17 18 Q. Of the pictures that you saw, if I 18 19 understood it correctly, some of those were 19 20 pictures of -- well, 1 think you said some of them 20 21 reflected parties or banquets? 21 22 A. Yes. 22 23 Q. I think you described some of the 23 24 pictures gatherings that appeared to be either in 24 25 Russia or Eastern Europe? Page 372 1 A. Yes. 1 2 Q. All right. And then you talked about a a 3 picture of two girls in the shower that you didn't 3 4 know the girls. Correct? 4 6) A. Yes. 5 6 Q. That's correct? 6 7 A. That's correct. 7 8 Q. All right. And that in all of the 8 9 photographs that you saw the individuals seemed to | 9 10 be having a good time? 10 11 A. Yes. 11 12 Q. Allright. Would it be a correct 12 13 statement that in none of the photographs did 13 14 anyone seem to be distressed or disturbed or show | 14 15 any type of negative emotion, at least from what 16 you observed? b at's Correct. MS, EZELL: Objection, form. 18 BY MR. CRITTON: 19 20 Q. And in terms of the photographs that you 20 21 did see, were any of the photographs that you saw, | 21 22 did they appear -- did they appear to have been of | 22 23 women that you had seen fly in with Mr. Epstein on | 23 his plane? 24 A. Yes. 25 Page 373 Q. Okay. Were any of the photographs that were in -- again, I'm talking about Ms. Maxwell's computer now, were those photographs of individuals who were any of the girls or ladies that came over to give massages? A. No. They stay at the house, Q. Okay. So the photographs that you saw on Ms. Maxwell's computer of females in any state of undress or at parties or at banquets, those were all of individuals who would fly in with Mr. Epstein at various periods of time that had traveled with him? A. That's correct. Q. Okay. Those are the girls that you told us I think at your last deposition and reaffirmed here today, those girls all appeared to be in their 20's? A. Yes, sir. Q. All right. Now, you were also asked some questions, a lot of questions about surveillance. And if I understood your testimony, and this is where it goes back to what do you know, what don't you know, what were you speculating on, what did you know at the time, what do you know now, at least I need you to distinguish that for me so that I know what you knew at the time, and as distinct from what you may have read in the newspaper or been told by some lawyer or someone else that may not be accurate. Okay? A. Yes, sir. Q. With regard to the -- with regard to surveillance equipment, if I understood your testimony today is you were completely unaware of the existence of any surveillance equipment in the house during the 2004/2005 time period that you worked there. Is that correct? A. Yes. Q. And therefore, where it was, what may have existed, whether it in fact actually did exist, whether anyone maintained it, you have no personal knowledge whatsoever. Is that true? MR. WILLITS: Object to the form. BY MR. CRITTON: Q. You talked about pictures of two women who you saw in the house who were nude, one was Nadia? A. Yes. Q. And you knew Nadia was someone who was in her 20's? Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000341 GIUFFRE001031