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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1331-15 Filed 01/05/24 Page 19 of 27 WONDUDAWNHeE A. To place a phone call? Q. Yeah. Did you ever see him place a phone call? A. Yes. Q. If in fact, maybe it was this way, is that you never saw him call someone to schedule a massage appointment. Correct? A. That's correct. Q. I think you said that Ms. Kellen told you that Mr. Epstein would take photographs. Did I understand you correctly? A. I'm sorry, can you repeat that? Q. Did Ms. Kellen ever tell you that Mr, Epstein took a photograph of anyone? A. No, she said to me Mr. Epstein is like he's an amateur photographer. Q. Okay. I may have misunderstood you then. Let me clarify that testimony. It's your testimony that Ms. Kellen told you that Mr. Epstein is an amateur photographer? A. Yes. Q. She never told you that -- or let me strike that. Is it correct that she never told you that Mr, Epstein took photographs of any of the A. That's correct. Q. Allright. Mr, Rodriguez, other than Mr, Epstein I think you told us you had worked for a lady named Ms. Hammond? Yes. And you had worked for a gentleman -- Sidney Bowman, Is he the gentleman from Fisher Island? No, Arturo Torres. All right. In addition to Ms. Hammond up in Palm Beach you worked for other individuals as well? A. I did it part-time but I don't have her name right now, sir. Q. During your career as a -- let me strike QP>Oro>r Page 387 Page 388 girls, women, who came over to give him a massage? WANDUMDAWN Page 389 Q. Of the time that you've done that approximately how many years does that include in your working life? A. Eight years, ten years. Q. Allright. And have you worked for -- have you been in other circumstances where you have worked around -- well, let me step back. With all of the individuals that you mentioned, estate manager, house manager, has this |! been for individuals who have or at least appear to have substantial wealth? A. Yes. Q. And as part of your duties, or not duties but as part of being a house manager or general manager for an estate do you interact with other estate managers? A. Yes. Q. And do you assist each other from time to time if someone needs help? A. That's correct. Q. And I assume that you've been in other estates in Palm Beach and probably in Fort Lauderdale and other locations? A. Yes. Q. As part of during your working career did you ever work in restaurant or a personal services type business where you would provide like catering or something like that to other wealthy individuals? A. Idid. Q. Give us a little of your background if you could then, Mr. Rodriguez. A. I work in Long Island, Montauk Lake Club and Marina, a very exclusive country club where Mr. Nixon used to spend his summers, Richard Nixon. I worked for Leona Helmsley in New York. Very demanding lady. And then Mr. Torres in Texas in his ranch and as well as Fisher Island. And I was a general manager of one of his restaurants in San Antonio, Texas. This is the most high profile people that I worked for. Had you worked other than those places, Mr. Arturo — A. Arturo Torres, yes. Q. Arturo Torres, Ms. Hammond, the other individual you can't remember, and Mr. Epstein, have you worked for other individuals as an estate manager or general house manager? A. No, sir. Leona Helmsley, she used to have the Helmsley Palace and she with her husband, Harry Helmsley, I think they owned a number of real estate in addition to hotel properties. A. That's correct. Q. When you would -- I think you described her as a demanding person? “31 (Pages 387 to 390) Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000345 GIUFFRE00 1035