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WOUDMHBRWHH Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1331-15 Filed 01/05/24 Page 27 of 27 psychologist, I don't know. MR. CRITTON: I have no further questions. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Mr. Rodriguez, I don't know if we covered this last time, I think that we did not, but can you tell us during the period of time when you worked at that house at E| Brillo, Mr. Epstein's, what cars did he own or were in the driveway? A. We have two Suburbans, two Mercedes 600, and a Cobra, and a motorcycle. Q. And which, if any, did he drive? A. He preferred the Mercedes or any of the Suburbans. Q. Allright. Do you know where he owns homes? A. Yes. Q. Where? MR. CRITTON: Form. THE WITNESS: Paris, New York City, El Brillo, Saint James Island -- I'm sorry, an Island in the Caribbean, and a ranch in New Mexico. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. What's the address? A. 22 Foch Avenue, Paris. F-O-C-H. Q. Okay. Do you know a telephone number for Balsone? A. No, I don't remember, sir. Q. All right. How did it come up that you talked to him about whether or not Mr. Epstein had massages at that house? A. He came on two occasions and stay with me for a week because Mr. Epstein wanted me to get into his style of running the house, and he was good enough to give me some inside information, what he likes and doesn't like, so he told me the same thing was in Paris. Q. And I think that you described Mr. Epstein usually had about two massages a day, or at least we were calling them massages. A. Yes, sir. MR. CRITTON: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. And did Mr. Balsone describe it ina similar fashion -- A. Yes. Q. - in Paris? And did he also tell you that the girls Page 420 Q. Have you been to any of the other properties? A. No. Q. Do you know the house managers at any of the other properties? A. Yes. Q. And who are they? A. Balsone in Paris, good friend of mine from Brazil. And the people in New York give me the briefing when I came aboard. There is a couple from the Philippines. And I talked to the couple that used to own the Island -- 1 mean who used to manage the Island, a couple from South African. Balsone was closer to me. Q. Have you talked to Balsone about whether . Yes, I did. Q. And what did he say about that? That he had a lot of massages over there MR. CRITTON: Mr. Balsone was which one? THE WITNESS: Baslone was the house manager of Paris, 22 Foch Avenue. BY MR. EDWARDS: Page 422 were very young in age that he was receiving these massages from? MR. CRITTON: Form. THE WITNESS: Yes. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Did he indicate whether or not -- or how old these girls were? A. No, he didn't told me. Q. Just that the age group was similar to the age group that he was interested in in Palm Beach? MR. EDWARDS: Form. THE WITNESS: Yes. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. And did you talk to any of the house Q. Who was the house manager in New York at the time when you were the house manager at El | Brillo? A. His nickname was Jo-Jo, but I don't remember. Jo-Jo and his wife, but I don't remember his name, sir. Q. Do you know whether Mr. Epstein would have massages when he was in New York at his New Kress Court Reporting, Inc. 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 NON PARTY (VR) 000353 GIUFFRE00 1043