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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Page 411 1 A. Yes, 1 2 MR. EDWARDS: Form. 2 3 MR. HOROWITZ: Form. a 4 BY MR. CRITTON: 4 5 Q. Allright. Were you aware of the 5 6 backgrounds of any of these women who came over to | 6 7 give massages? 7 8 MR. HOROWITZ: Form. 8 9 THE WITNESS: No, sir, 9 10 BY MR. CRITTON: 10 il Q. Well, have you -- did any one of the M1 12. females who ever came to give massages, did they 12 13 ever tell you that they were prostitutes? 13 14 A, No, sir. 14 1 Q. Did they ever tell you that they had been 15 16 lead into a jife of prostitution? 16 17 MR, HOROWITZ; Form. 17 18 THE WITNESS: No, 18 19 BY MR. CRITTON: 19 20 Q. Did they ever tell you about their family 20 21 \ife, whether it involved prostitution, abuse, ai 22 prior posttraumatic stress syndrome, drugs, 22 23 alcohol, abuse by individuals, physical abuse as 23 24 well as verbal abuse? 24 25 A. No, they didn't tell me. Page 412 1 Q, And, obviously, you have no personal 1 2 knowledge one way or the other -- 2 3 A. No, sir, 3 4 Q. -- with regard to what their backgrounds 4 5 were before they ever met or came in contact with 5 6 Mr. Epstein? 6 7 A. No, sir, 7 8 Q. Did any person, female, who came to give 8 9 amassage at the Epstein home, did aryone ever 9 10 come downstairs and say, Mr. Rodriguez, or sir, 10 11 call the police? 11 12 MR, EDWARDS; Form. 12 13 MR. HOROWITZ: Form. 13 14 THE WITNESS: No, sir. 14 15 BY MR. CRITTON: Q [think you said on one occasion you saw you didn't recognize. A. Exactly. 19 Q. You called the police? 20 A. Yes, I did. 21 Q. Did you go to the police or you called the police and they came? A, I went to the police department. Q. So how did you -- did you actually leave Document 1331-15 Filed 01/05/24 Page 25 of 27 the property in your car? A. lL was pulling over from Publix so I turned around and I went to the police and say ~~ Q. Okay. You were coming back to the home when you saw that car there? A, Exactly, Q. And they sent -- they, the police, sent a police car with you to come there? A. Yes. Q. Did you and the police officer walk up to the car? A, The police went first, Q. All right. And if 1 understand that, that was in January of ‘05? A. Yes. Q. And when you did that then did you follow behind the police officer to see who was in the car? A. Yes. Q. And then you recognized that as Ij? A. Yes. Q. And fj said she had come back or was there ta get some money? A. Yes, Q. And did you in fact give her money? A. Yes, I did. Q. And I think you said you told the police Officer you recognized her? A. Yes. Q. Did you have to get permission to pay her or did you just pay her? A. No, because Sarah told me already but I forgot she was going to be that late, so that was my concern in calling the police. Q. Okay. And that person who came, do you have any idea what her age was at that time? That night? Right, January of '08, No, no. I'm sorry, January of '05. No, b>o>ro> had had with Louella who was I think she was one of the house -- the main housekeeper, A. Yes, Q. And Louella told you a number of thoughts that she had, Is that correct? A. Yes. Q. And as to Louella what she told you about -- fet me strike that. Kress Court Reporting, Inc, 305-866-7688 7115 Rue Notre Dame, Miami Beach, FL 33141 Page 414 37 (Pages 411 to 414) NON PARTY (VR) 000351 GIUFFREO01041