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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1332-5 Filed 01/08/24 Page 4 of 9 of criminal and other misconduct by Ms. Maxwell. I believed an immediate response was imperative, even though this was happening in the midst of the holidays in the United Kingdom. My communications with Mr. Gow and with Ms. Maxwell were sporadic, delayed and hurried because of my and their own holiday schedules. I worked while on vacation and on Friday, January 2, 2015, to ensure that the statement was issued as soon as possible after receiving the media inquiries. 13. I did not ask Ms. Maxwell to respond point by point to Ms. Giuffre’s factual allegations in the CVRA joinder motion. What we needed to do was issue an immediate denial and that necessarily had to be short and to the point. It should have been obvious to the media that Ms. Giuffre’s new and significantly more salacious allegations had no credibility because they differed so substantially from her previous allegations, when she had the opportunity and incentive to disclose all relevant facts about being a victim of alleged sexual abuse and sex trafficking at the hands of the rich and powerful. I prepared the January 2015 statement based on my knowledge of Ms. Giuffre’s past statements and her most recent statements in the joinder motion, and made the point to the media-recipients that she and her new statements, which differed so substantially from her former ones, were not credible—specifically, that the new allegations were patently false—.e., “obvious lies.” 14. By way of example I recall that prior to the December 2014 filing of the joinder motion and the subsequent press reports that Ms. Guiffre clearly stated she had not had sex with Prince Andrew. Yet in her joinder motion she claimed she did have sex with Prince Andrew and that the sex occurred in what can only be described as a very small bathtub, too small for a man of Prince Andrew’s size to enjoy a bath in let alone sex. So as of December 2014 it was clear Ms. Guiffre had made polar opposite statements. She was either lying when she said they did not have sex or when she said they did. I made the inescapable inference that she is a liar, as clearly