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DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-2 Filed 01/09/24 Page 13 of 73 Confidential Page 42 G. Maxwell - Confidential masseuse as far as I can recall today, so that would have made her, I thought that would have made her, to work in a spa, I didn't think about, and I, I thought she appeared to be a professional masseuse. Q. Remember questions a while ago where you made a big point about people being adult masseuses? A. Right, yeah. Q. When you met Virginia for the first time -- A. Right. Q. -- did you think she was an adult masseuse, as you use that term? A. I don't recall actually meeting Virginia at the time, and in fact, were it not for this case, I'm not sure I would recall her at all. Q. But you do recall knowing Virginia? A. Ido, yes. Q. You do recall knowing that Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages, correct? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Page 44 G. Maxwell - Confidential thought. I really don't recall her, so it's hard for me to testify what I thought about her age at the time. Q. Was Virginia, in the period of around 2000, the youngest person that, as you understood it, was giving Mr. Epstein massages? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. Again, I can't testify to her age, but everybody else that I can recall seemed to be again, like I would say, adults. Q. You didn't think Virginia was an adult, did you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. Like I said, I don't recall her. I don't recall thinking about -- my memory is of adults giving Jeffrey massages, and as I don't really remember Virginia around that time, I don't know what I think. Q. You do remember Virginia, about that time back in the 2000s, giving Mr. Epstein massages? Page 43 G. Maxwell - Confidential A. I believe she was, but I can't say for sure. Q. Why do you believe Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages? A. Today, because -- but back then. Q. Back then? A. Because at some point she would have been going to the massage room to give massages. Q. Back then, in the period around 2000? A. Right. Q. You believed that Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages, correct? A. I believe I did, yes. Q. At the time back in the period around 2000 that you believe that Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages, how old did you think Virginia was at the time? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. Idon't believe that I -- I don't know what I thought at the time. It's a long time ago and I just have no idea what I MAGNAS ~ Page 45 G. Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. I barely remember her at all. Q. Whether you barely remember her or not, you do remember that back in the period around 2000, Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. Only in the most general terms. It would be somebody who would give him a massage, and that's it. Q. During the period of time back in the period around 2000, when you knew that Virginia was somebody who would give Mr. Epstein a massage, was she somebody who you considered an adult? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. I didn't consider her at all because she is not somebody that I really interacted with. Q. Itis your testimony that Virginia was not somebody that you interacted with, is (Pages 42 to 45) LEGAL SERVICES