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DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-2 Filed 01/09/24 Page 12 of 73 Confidential Page 38 G. Maxwell - Confidential Q. Was every person who you arranged to come to Mr. Epstein's house to give a massage someone who either you had already had a massage from or you had a friend who recommended them as a good professional masseuse? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. Typically, that is how that would work. Q. Was there ever anyone who you arranged to come to Mr. Epstein's house to give him a massage, someone who you had not previously gotten a massage from yourself or received a recommendation from one of your friends that it was a good professional masseuse? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. I cannot think of anyone that would fit that category. Q. You made a point in a previous answer of referring to people as adult masseuses. Do you recall that? DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Page 40 G. Maxwell - Confidential A. I know what the allegations are, and I am aware of those, but as to my actual knowledge of somebody under the age of 21, I can't say that I know, I can't think of anybody. I know Virginia has obviously made those claims and she was 17 when he met her, but other than her, I cannot think of anybody. Q. Insofar as you are aware, did Virginia ever give Mr. Epstein a massage? A. Iknow she said she did and I believe she may have, but I don't ever see her giving him a massage, so I can't say. Q. Leaving aside any information that you have that has come from Virginia in the last decade? A. Right. Q. Going back to the time when Virginia was less than 21, at that period of time, did you believe that Virginia was giving Mr. Epstein massages? A. I do think she was giving him massages. Q. Is it your testimony that the only Page 39 G. Maxwell - Confidential A. Ido. Q. When you refer to someone as an adult masseuse, what are you referring to? A. I think everybody in this room is an adult. Q. I don't necessarily disagree with that, but what I'm asking you, since I can't carry all these people with me every time somebody reads this transcript, is what do you mean by an adult? A. Well, I think an adult is somebody who looks older and professional and is someone who has lived some life and looks like any one of us in this room do, some a little older and some a little younger. Q. You are aware that there are assertions that Mr. Epstein had massages from females under the age of 21? A. Tam aware of that. Q. Insofar as you are aware, did Mr. Epstein ever have a massage from anyone under the age of 21? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. MAGNA® ~— Page 41 G. Maxwell - Confidential female that you had any reason to believe was under 21 who was giving Mr. Epstein massages was Virginia? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. First of all, I didn't know how old Virginia was, so other than Virginia, so I can't say, but other than -- I was not aware of anybody else, no. Q. You first met Virginia when? A. I don't know. Q. Approximately? A. I believe it was in 2000, but now I'm going off the knowledge that I have, not from memory, so I met her the end of 2000 apparently. Q. And when you met Virginia in 2000, how old did you think she was? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. Ididn't think about how old she was. I don't recall the actual meeting of Virginia, so I can't say, but I think she was at least, I thought she was a professional (Pages 38 to 41) LEGAL SERVICES