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DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-2 Filed 01/09/24 Page 35 of 73 Confidential Page 130 G. Maxwell - Confidential in Palm Beach in the 1990s and 2000s? A. Idon't believe so. Q. When did he become a butler for Mr. Epstein? A. Ibelieve late -- middle of 2000s. 2004, 2005, something like that. Q. When he became a butler for Mr. Epstein, did he work for Mr. Epstein in Palm Beach? A. Ibelieve he did. Q. And did you see Mr. Rodriguez at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence while Mr. Rodriguez was working as a butler for Mr. Epstein? A. Iwas not in Palm Beach when he was working for Mr. Epstein. Q. I think you answered the question, but I want to be absolutely certain. Is it your testimony that you never saw Mr. Rodriguez at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence? A. That is not my testimony. Q. Did you ever see Mr. Rodriguez at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence? DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Page 132 G. Maxwell - Confidential Q. Did you see Mr. Rodriguez at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence in 2005? A. I don't recall going to the house in 2005, but if I was there and he was working, I would have seen him. Q. Do you recall, as you sit here now, one way or another, whether you were at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence in 2005? A. I don't recall going to the house in 2005, but if I did go, I would have seen him. And if I did go, it would have been once, maybe, I maybe went to the house in 2005, I don't recall. Q. If you went to the house in 2005, is it your testimony it would have only been once? A. Sounds about right, maybe twice. I was not in Palm Beach in 2005. Q. For you to have been at Mr. Epstein's house in Palm Beach, you would have had to have been in Palm Beach, right? A. I would have had to have been in Palm Beach to be at his house in Palm Beach, of course. Page 131 G. Maxwell - Confidential A. I'msure I did because I would have seen him. I'm sure I did see him but -- yes, I would have seen him. Q. When did you see Mr. Rodriguez at Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence? A. If I'm right and I could -- the dates are a bit off, Mr. Epstein's mother died, I think Mr. Rodriguez was working for Mr. Epstein at that time, and I helped with the funeral arrangements and I would have seen him at that point. Q. Other than the one occasion when Mr. Epstein's mother died, we can figure out what the date of that was -- A. I don't have all the dates in my head. Q. Other than the one occasion when Mr. Epstein's mother died, did you ever see Mr. Rodriguez? A. In that period of time when I went very infrequently to Palm Beach, I don't know how many times, maybe once or twice and had he been at the house, I would have seen him, so there would have been very few times. Page 133 G. Maxwell - Confidential Q. So when you say you were not in Palm Beach in 2005, does that mean it is your testimony you were not at Mr. Epstein's house in Palm Beach in 2005? A. I don't recall being at Mr. Epstein's house in 2005, I don't really recall being in Palm Beach in 2005, and if I was in Palm Beach in 2005, I may not have stayed at his house. Q. Is it your testimony that the most you would have been at Mr. Epstein's house in Palm Beach in 2005 was once or twice, if that? A. To the best of my recollection, that sounds about right. But I really don't recall, 2005 is a long time ago, I just don't recall. Q. You were continuing to work for Mr. Epstein in 2005? A. I was helping out in just very specific areas of staffing of the houses and some architectural details and decorating. Q. You were getting paid? MR. PAGLIUCA: We've gone over MAGNA®© 34 (Pages 130 to 133) LEGAL SERVICES