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DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-2 Filed 01/09/24 Page 44 of 73 Confidential Page 166 G. Maxwell - Confidential that time? I don't recall anybody else. How did you arrive there? I don't know. Did you come with Mr. Epstein? I don't know, I'm sorry. How did Mr. Dershowitz arrive ~ S O>POPEOrPO>rO> Again, I don't know. Did he come with Mr. Epstein? I don't know. . Other than that one time that you say you were at the Virgin Island property with Mr. Dershowitz, had you ever met Mr. Dershowitz in Mr. Epstein's presence? MR. PAGLIUCA: This is outside of the court's order. I will tell you not to answer that question. THE WITNESS: Okay. Q. Did Mr. Dershowitz ever receive a massage at any of Mr. Epstein's properties? A. I don't recall. Q. Did you ever have any conversations with Mr. Dershowitz? DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Page 168 G. Maxwell - Confidential Q. I'm not now asking you about a conversation. A. What are you asking me? Sorry. Q. Do you recall ever seeing Mr. Dershowitz at any of Mr. Epstein's residences other than the Virgin Island property? A. I don't have any specific recollection. Q. Do you have a general recollection? A. Ihave a general recollection that I have seen him, but I just don't have any other memory of it. I know I met him. I just don't recall where or when, except for that singular event on the island. Q. When you say you have a general recollection that you have seen him, do you mean you have a general recollection that you have seen him at Mr. Epstein's properties other than the Virgin Islands? A. It's just a general recollection, but I have no specific memory of seeing him. Q. All I'm trying to do is find out whether your general recollection is a Page 167 G. Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: You don't have to answer that question. About what, anything? Q. Did you ever have any conversations with Mr. Dershowitz at Mr. Epstein's properties? A. I did, about metal detecting. Q. Anything else? A. ITonly recall metal detecting. Q. Where did that conversation take place? A. As Iwas metal detecting. Q. I said where? A. On the island. Q. That's the only conversation that you recall, is that your testimony? A. Yes, that is my testimony. Q. Do you recall ever seeing Mr. Dershowitz at any of Mr. Epstein's residences other than the Virgin Island property? A. That's the only specific memory I have of the conversation that I recall because it was something special. Page 169 G. Maxwell - Confidential general recollection of having seen him someplace in the world or whether you have a general recollection of having seen him at Mr. Epstein's properties? A. I'm sorry, I really can't answer. I just don't know. The only memory I have of him is on the island, and I don't have any additional memory of him anywhere else. Q. I mentioned a woman by the name of Caroline before. Are you familiar with a Caroline Casey? And I don't mean to imply they are the same people. A. Is this on any of these lists that you gave me? Q. It could have been on the first list. I don't think so. A. Is it on this list? Q. It's not on the second list. A. So what's your question? Q. Are you familiar with a woman named Caroline Casey? A. I'm familiar with the name, yes. Q. Who is that person? A. I don't recall who she is. MAGNA®© 43 (Pages 166 to 169) LEGAL SERVICES