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DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-2 Filed 01/09/24 Page 49 of 73 Confidential Page 186 G. Maxwell - Confidential Tila Davies, which of Mr. Epstein's residences did you see Tila Davis at? A. I don't have a memory of Tila, where I would have seen her. Q. Did you see her at some residence or property? A. Idid. Q. Of Mr. Epstein? A. Idid. Q. You just can't remember which ones, is that fair? A. Yes, that's fair. Q. Tiffany Gramza, which residences of Mr. Epstein did you see Tiffany at? A. I don't actually recall meeting Tiffany, so I can't recall. Q. So Tiffany Gramza may be somebody who you never met, is that your testimony? A. No, I'm not saying that. I just don't recall her really at all. I'm sorry, I don't recall. Q. Did you see Tiffany at some residence or property of Mr. Epstein? A. Idon't recall. DMIDTUBWNPFPOCODIDAGVBRWNHE Page 188 G. Maxwell - Confidential not to answer these questions anymore. These do not appear -- I let this go on, they don't appear to be tied to the court's order as relating to sex or massages or anything that's contained in the order. This is just simply what was somebody doing at some property at some point in time. So don't answer these questions. Q. Itis your assertion that, leaving Mr. Epstein aside, none of the people on this list engaged in sexual activities with either you or Mr. Epstein, correct? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. Ican only testify to myself. I cannot testify to Mr. Epstein. Q. With respect to Mr. Epstein, do you know, one way or another, whether any of these people engaged in sexual activities? A. With respect to Mr. Epstein, how would I know that? Q. The answer is lots of ways, but all I can do is ask you whether you know it or Page 187 G. Maxwell - Confidential Q. Clara Hazel, what properties of Mr. Epstein did you see Clare Hazel at? A. Palm Beach, and I believe New Mexico and New York. Q. And Melinda Luntz? A. Palm Beach, I believe. Q. And what was Melinda Luntz doing at Palm Beach when you saw her? A. IfI remember correctly, she was a real estate broker. Q. Did you see Melinda Luntz at Mr. Epstein's Virgin Island property? A. I don't recall. Q. When you saw Clare Hazel in Palm Beach and New Mexico and New York, what was she doing? . Idon't know. . Do you know why she was there? . I think she was just a friend. . A friend of Mr. Epstein's? . Yeah. . Alexia Wallaert, what Epstein properties did you see her at? MR. PAGLIUCA: I will now tell you Page 189 G. Maxwell - Confidential not. A. Idon't. Q. Do you have any reason to believe -- because I don't want to get stuck on your concept of personal knowledge -- do you have any reason to believe that any of the people on this list had sexual activities with Mr. Epstein? A. Ido not. Q. Do you have any reason to believe that any of these people had massages at any Epstein property? A. Ihave no idea. It's entirely possible, but I have no idea. Q. Do you have any reason to believe that any of the people on this list, other than Mr. Epstein himself, engaged in sexual activities with anyone on Mr. Epstein's properties? A. Thave no reason to believe that. Q. Let me go to the Dubin residence. I asked you some questions about the Dubin residence earlier and about a possible visit to that residence of a MAGNA®© 48 (Pages 186 to 189) LEGAL SERVICES