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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 DCDOMDADUBPWNHNFDWOWOWOAIDUOBWNE Page 30 G Maxwell - Confidential in the back of the home, in other words without a shirt on? A. So that's just another of Virginia's lies. So let's be clear, at the time when I was there and present, frequently at the house, it was unusual to see people without their clothes on. Q. When you say unusual, did you observe people without their clothes at Jeffrey Espstein's home? A. Can I answer. Sometimes people in the privacy of a house and swimming pool, I have seen people from time to time take their top off. Ihave seen people from time to time do that. Very unusual. Naked people around the people at any frequent period of time, I have never seen. Q. Were they under the age of 18? A. As Iwas saying, people when I was in the house, were of adult age, if they were children, friends of my family or friends that were there, they may well have been because I have nieces and nephews under the age of 18, I cannot testify to anybody else Filed 01/09/24 Page 10 of 106 DAIDUBPWNFPOOAIAGTBRWNHE Page 32 G Maxwell - Confidential Q. Did you ever hire a masseuse that was under the age of 18? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. Q. Did you? A. Again, I don't hire massage therapists, so that was not my job. Q. You just said you did, you just said you hired massage therapists for Jeffrey Epstein, I'm asking if you hired a massage therapist who was under the age of 18? A. Let me correct myself. When I meant hire, I didn't mean hire in the way you are doing it. What I say is that I went to spas and I met people and if they did home visits, Jeffrey would then, in fact, hire them. I'm not responsible for hiring someone. And they were not full-time, so it's not a correct characterization. Q. Did you ever, your term is meet, did you ever meet a person that was under the age of 18 that you -- that Jeffrey then hired as a masseuse? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form Page 31 G Maxwell - Confidential -- just another one of Virginia's many fictitious lies and stories to make this a salacious event to get interest and press. It's absolute rubbish. Q. Were you in charge of hiring individuals to provide massages for Jeffrey Epstein? A. My job included hiring many people. There were six homes. As I sit here, I hired assistants, I hired architects, I hired decorators, I hired cooks, I hired cleaners, I hired gardeners, I hired pool people, I hired pilots, I hired all sorts of people. In the course and a very small part of my job was from from time to time to find adult professional massage therapists for Jeffrey. Q. When you say adult professional massage therapists, where did you find these massage therapists? A. From time to time I would visit professional spas, I would receive a massage and if the massage was good I would ask that man or woman if they did home visits. MAGNA® Page 33 G Maxwell - Confidential and foundation. A. First of all, Virginia Roberts who you are referring to was a masseuse aged 17, we all now know, so your story that you keep pushing out to the press that she was a 15 year old -- you and I both know was a lie, correct. Q. You are not sentencing my question. A. You and I both know that was a lie, correct. Q. You are not answering my question. I'm asking you whether you ever met a female under the age of 18 that Jeffrey then hired as a masseuse? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. A. The only person I can talk about who clearly was a massage age 17, a masseuse, was Virginia. Q. Did you meet her and then introduce her to Jeffrey? A. I don't know. I already testified I don't recall meeting her. (Maxwell Exhibit 2, email, marked 9 (Pages 30 to 33) LEGAL SERVICES