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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 MIDNDHBWNHEFOCHODAID OV BAWNHE Page 122 G Maxwell - Confidential Epstein's planes with individuals who were under the age of 18? A. ITregularly flew on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane but I cannot testify as to flying with people under the age. I don't believe that I did. Q. Why wouldn't you remember flying with a 17 year old? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. How would I know, one, that she is 17, how would you know that, how do you know I'm on the plane. Q. Are you saying you are not on this flight, so this is a Palm Beach to Teterboro. This says the JE, GM ET and Virginia. The GM you are saying is not you? MR. PAGLIUCA: I object to the form. You can answer the question if you know. A. How do you know the GM is me. Q. Is it your testimony that on the flight logs when it represents GM that it is not you flying on the plane? Filed 01/09/24 Page 33 of 106 MIDUBRWNHEFOWOAINIDDAOBWNHPKR MNNNNND OApBWNHEOW G Maxwell - Confidential me. Q. So as you sit here today, you don't believe you flew on that plane? A. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying you cannot be sure that's me. Q. Do you have reason to doubt that when it says GM on these flight logs that that represents you? A. Icannot testify to that. I'm just saying it may not be me. Q. In looking at the flight logs and look up, let's move up a couple of lines. If you start at the top, you are going to see JE, then JE, AP, i. JE, AP JE, GM, JE, GM, JE, GM, Ricardo Loretta, reposition, JE, GM, JE, GM ET Kelly Spamm, JE, GM, Kelly Spamm, Tom Pritzer, female, Marham Air Force repositioning. JE, GM, ET, Kelly Spamm, JE, GM, ET, Kelly Spamm, JE, GM, ET, Virginia, JE, GM, AP, Virginia, repositioning and then a certification. So is it your testimony in looking at that that you do not believe that the GM Page 123 G Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. GM can stand for any level, it could be Georgina, George. Q. Are there any people that flew with Jeffrey Epstein that had the initials GM? A. I don't know. Q. Do you recall flying with Jeffrey Epstein on his plane over 300 times during the period of 1999 to 2005? A. I cannot testify to how many times I was on his plane because that would just be impossible. Q. You were on his plane regularly, would you say? A. [already testified I was on his plane regularly. Q. Is it your testimony and I'm referring now to the line that we were just talking about that you were not on the flight from Palm Beach to Teterboro that lists JE, GM, ET and Virginia? A. Iam not testifying to that. Iam just saying that you cannot be sure that is MAGNA® DMIDAHBWNHROCWODAIDDGOAWNHE NNNNNNDN OB WwNHrROW Page 125 G Maxwell - Confidential represents you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that you cannot -- I can't sit here and tell you for sure GM is me and I cannot testify remembering being on a flight at that time. Q. You don't remember being on any of these flights with the initial GM? A. Iremember being on many flights. I cannot testify that is a flight I am on. Q. Let's go to the next page which is going to be I want you to look at line -- so the date is at the top, so it's and if you go down, you will see a line that says the and if you scroll over you will see PBI to TIST, if you look at the airport codes, TIST is going to be representative for the U.S. Virgin Islands and then you will see the list on the plane JE, GM, ET and Virginia Roberts. Do you recall flying from Palm Beach to the U.S. Virgin Islands with 32 (Pages 122 to 125) LEGAL SERVICES