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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 DMIADGTUBWNHRFROOAIA oBWNHE Page 134 G Maxwell - Confidential you said you visited Jeffrey's island, I think they called it St. Jeffrey or St. James, the U.S. Virgin Island home. A. St. James. Q. Do you recall whether President Clinton was ever on that island? A. Categorically, definitively, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, when I was present or any other time that I am aware of, was President Clinton ever on that island, I do not believe he went to that island ever ever, that is an absolute fabrication and an absolute flat out lie. Q. Was President Clinton or former President Clinton ever at any of Jeffrey Epstein's homes when you present, other than the island I know you said that did not happen, the home in either New York or Palm Beach or New Mexico? A. Ido not believe at any time President Clinton was at any of Jeffrey's homes, I have absolutely no knowledge or otherwise that he was ever there. Q. You don't recall having dinner with Filed 01/09/24 Page 36 of 106 DIDO BWNFPWOOANDOAWNE Page 136 G Maxwell - Confidential observe Jeffrey and President Clinton talking? A. I'msure they did. Q. Did they seem friendly? A. I don't recollect. Q. Was Epstein one of the original people that conceived the Clinton global initiative? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. Do you know? A. I don't have -- I don't know what you are talking about. Q. You don't know what I'm talking about. Did you ever, not at one of houses, but did you ever eat dinner with President Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein? A. Are you just talking in general anywhere. Q. In general? A. I believe on a plane of this nature we would have had a meal. Q. But not outside of the travel on Page 135 G Maxwell - Confidential him at any of those homes? A. Again, Virginia is absolutely totally lying. This is a subject of defamation about Virginia and the lies she has told and one of lies she told was that President Clinton was on the island where I was present. Absolutely 1000 percent that is a flat out total fabrication and lie. Q. You did fly on planes, Jeffrey Epstein's planes with President Clinton, is that correct? A. Lhave flown, yes. Q. Would it be fair to say that President Clinton and Jeffrey are friends? A. I wouldn't be able to characterize it like that, no. Q. Are they acquaintances? A. I wouldn't categorize it. Q. He just allowed him to use his plane? A. I couldn't categorize Jeffrey's relationship. Q. When you were on the plane with Jeffrey and President Clinton, did you Page 137 G Maxwell - Confidential the flights? A. Ican't recollect having a meal with them, but just so we are clear, the allegations that Clinton had a meal on Jeffrey's island is 100 percent false. Q. But he may have had a meal on Jeffrey's plane? A. I'msure he had a meal on Jeffrey's plane. Q. You do know how many times he flew on Jeffrey's plane? . Idon't. . Do you know who Doug Band is? . Ido. . How do you know him? . He used to work or still works for Bill Clinton. Q. Did you ever have a relationship with him? A. Weare talking about adult consensual relationships, it's off the record. Q. I'm not asking what you did with him, I'm asking if you ever had a 35 (Pages 134 to 137) MAGNA® LEGAL SERVICES