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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 AINDTHBWNHROWOANIDA YAWNHE Page 222 G Maxwell - Confidential that I can answer it correctly? Q. Why can you not testify as to whether an underage girl, you said you can testify as to females that were over the age of 18, why can't you testify as to whether an underage girl came over for an interview and on the same day -- A. I don't know what you mean by interview. Q. You just said that Jeffrey Epstein interviewed, it was your word, interviewed the masseuses before they gave massages, is that correct? A. The word interview is making me -- I'm English, so you could have some difficulty understanding the way I communicate. Q. I'm using your word. A. Then I will reuse it a different word. He would meet them because receiving a massage is something you want to make sure you are comfortable with the person and so interview is not the correct word but you would meet them to have a conversation with Filed 01/09/24 Page 58 of 106 DMIADGTUBWNHRFROOAIA oBWNHE MNNNNN DN OP WNHFrF OW Page 224 G Maxwell - Confidential time for a massage at that time or B, whether he could have a massage at that moment. Q. Was Virginia an adult when she came over, was she over 18? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. I think we established, as of today, we are all aware, everyone in this room that she was 17. Q. So you have been present when a minor was brought over for a massage for Jeffrey? A. Can I say, as you are able to have a massage at 17, so she came as a masseuse. Q. I'm not saying whether or not you are able to. I'm saying you've been present at Jeffrey's home when an underage minor has come over to give him a massage? A. That's just not how that works. You are able to be a masseuse at 17 so she came to give -- for a massage, at 17 you are able to come and give a massage. Q. I'm not asking whether she is able to do it. I'm asking whether you were Page 223 G Maxwell - Confidential them to see if you want to have a massage with that person. Q. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever meet an underaged girl and on the same day receive a massage from that girl? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. I can't possibly testify to what happened after I was not at the house. Q. If you are aware, at any time you were at the house, did you ever see that? MS. MENNINGER: Let her finish the question. A. Ican only testify to people who were adult professional masseuses who came to the house. I cannot testify to something I'm not party to and don't know about. I can only testify to what I saw. So when professional adult masseuse, male and/or females would come to the house, typically when I was there, typically he would meet with them prior, to have a conversation with them about their experience, whatever, to decide whether it would then A, if he had DAIANDUBWNHRFPOWODAIDUBWNHE MNMNNN NM OPWNHrROW Page 225 G Maxwell - Confidential present at the home when a girl under the age of 18 came over for the purposes of giving a massage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. You can answer. A. You can be a professional masseuse at 17 in Florida, so as far as I am aware, a professional masseuse showed up for a massage. There is nothing inappropriate or incorrect about that and your mischaracterization of it, I think is unfortunate. Q. How many teenagers did he have that were professional masseuses that worked in his home? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. How many? A. First of all, I am not aware of teenagers who worked in his home. Q. You are aware of Virginia Roberts and you've stated she was 17 and she worked for him, correct? 222 to 225) MAGNA® ~~ LEGAL SERVICES