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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 AIANDUBPWNHrRPOW ADA ATDUOBWNEH Page 202 G Maxwell - Confidential listen carefully. Did you issue a press statement through your press agent, Ross Gow, in January of 2015, where you stated that Virginia Roberts' claims were, quote, obvious lies? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. So my lawyer, Philip Barden instructed Ross Gow to issue a statement. Q. Today, did you say that Virginia lied about, quote, absolutely everything? A. I said that there are some things she may not have lied about. Q. So are you saying it's an obvious lie that Jeffrey Epstein engaged in sexual contact with Virginia while Virginia was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Can you ask the question again, please? Q. Are you saying it's an obvious lie that Jeffrey Epstein engaged in sexual Filed 01/09/24 Page 53 of 106 AIDUAWNHEHRFCOAIADAFOBWNHEHE Page 204 G Maxwell - Confidential Gow and Philip Barden decided to put -- I can testify to what Virginia's obvious lies are as regards to me. I cannot make representations about all the many lies she may or may not have told about Jeffrey. Q. So is Virginia lying when she says, is it an obvious lie when she says that she had sex with Jeffrey Epstein while she was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Again, I'm testifying to what I know to be true. I can only testify to all the many lies she told about me. I cannot testify to what lies she told about somebody else. Given she told so many about me, one can probably infer she is lying about everything. Q. So you think she is lying when she said she had sex with Jeffrey Epstein when she was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Again, I can only talk about what I Page 203 G Maxwell - Confidential conduct with Virginia while Virginia was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. You can answer. A. Try again, please. Q. Are you saying that it's an obvious lie that Jeffrey Epstein engaged in sexual conduct with Virginia while Virginia was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Again, I'm telling you, first of all, it was a statement that was issued by my lawyer and -- through my lawyer to Ross Gow. Q. I understand that. I'm asking you, are you saying that it's an obvious lie that Jeffrey Epstein engaged in sexual conduct with Virginia while Virginia was underage. Is that a lie? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. You can answer. A. So I cannot testify to what Ross Page 205 G Maxwell - Confidential can positively say myself, not what somebody else is going to represent. Q. When you were saying that she was, her claims of having sex with Jeffrey Epstein were obvious lies, are you saying she is lying about engaging in sexual conduct with Jeffrey Epstein when she was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Q. You can answer. A. Again, this was a statement that was put out from my lawyer through my press person in London. And I can only testify to the obvious lies that she says about me. I cannot make representations about lies she says about someone else, but she lies so many times about me, one can probably infer she is lying about everything. Q. So is she not lying when -- is she telling the truth when she says she had sex with Jeffrey Epstein when she was underage? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Again, I don't know how else to 2 (Pages 202 to 205) MAGNA® — LEGAL SERVICES