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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 MIDNA HBRWNHRFPDOWOCAIAUYAWNHE Page 226 G Maxwell - Confidential A. No. I did not state that at all, you are mischaracterizing my words and what I said. What I said was that we can all agree and I think at this point there is not one person in this room, however much you would like her to be younger, to say she was not 17 because that has been a very offensive thing that you have all done. So she was 17. At 17 you are allowed to be a professional masseuse and as far as I'm concerned, she was a professional masseuse. There is nothing inappropriate or incorrect about her coming at that time to give a massage. Her entire characterization of her first time at the house was to me an obvious lie, given it was impossible for her entire story to take place given I was speaking to her mother the entire she was at the house. Q. So it was impossible that day, that first day she came and you were speaking to the mother, for Virginia Roberts to have had sex with Jeffrey Epstein during the time that you were outside with her mother? Filed 01/09/24 Page 59 of 106 AIANDUBPWNHrRPOW ADA ATDUOBWNEH MNMNNDN NY OPWNHrF OW) Page 228 G Maxwell - Confidential absolutely 1000 percent that she did not have any type of sexual relations as described by you in your court papers that took place because those allegedly according to her lies involved some aspect of me. As I was standing outside with her mother the entire time, her entire story is a lie. Therefore, to ask me what she did or didn't do during that time, I can only testify to what she said about me, which was 1000 percent false. Q. So let's not take the first time, let's take the next time she comes. A. No no, how can do you that, when the basis of this entire horrible story that you have put out is based on this first appalling story that was written, repeated, multiply by the press that lied about her age, lied about the first time she came, lied about and characterized the entire first time. I have been so absolutely appalled by her story and appalled by the entire characterization of it and I apologize sincerely for my banging at the table Page 227 G Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. You, again, are completely mischaracterizing. I can only testify to what I heard obvious lies about me and her obvious lies about me are that she, as you put out to the papers and every other which way, went upstairs with her, didn't happen. So that to me is an absolute, obvious lie. I also don't believe that her -- her mischaracterization of the length of time she was there because as I recall, she just met with Jeffrey and then left with her mother. That's my recollection. Q. So you were standing outside the entire time that Virginia was in the house, is that correct? A. That is correct. Q. So can you testify as to whether or not, do you know either from Jeffrey or any other source whether or not Virginia Roberts had sex with Jeffrey on that first day that she was at the house? A. Wecan categorically state, DMIDABWNHROWODAIDAUGOAWNHE NNNNNND OBWNHrROW Page 229 G Maxwell - Confidential earlier, I hope you accept my apology. It's borne out of years of feeling the pressure of his entire lie that she has perpetrated from our first time and whilst I recognize that was -- I hope you forgive me sincerely because it was just the length of time that hat terrible story has been told and retold and rehashed when I know it to be 100 percent false. Q. So not the first time she came, but he second time she came or the third time or any time she came, did you ever participate in a massage with her in Jeffrey Epstein's room? A. Ihave never participated at any time with Virginia in a massage with Jeffrey. Q. Have you ever participated at any time with Virginia in any kind of sexual contact or sexual touching with Jeffrey and Virginia? A. Thave not. Q. So we were going through the list of obvious lies and you were talking about the first time which I believe we have 8 (Pages 226 to 229) MAGNA® — LEGAL SERVICES