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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 DIDO BWNFPWOOANDOAWNE Page 310 G Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. That's not how I would characterize that. Q. How would you characterize it? A. Ihave testified that I'm responsible for finding professional people to work in the homes, age appropriate adult people, so from pool attendants, to gardeners, to chefs, to housekeepers, to butlers, to chauffeurs and one of the functions was to be able to answer the telephones and in the context of finding someone to answer the telephones, I did look to try to find appropriate people to answer the phones. Q. So did you find Johanna for purposes of that role? A. So in the course of looking for somebody to answer phones at the house, Johanna was one of the people who said that she was willing to answer phones. Q. Did you approach her at her school campus? Filed 01/09/24 Page 80 of 106 DIDO BWNFPWOOANDOAWNE Page 312 G Maxwell - Confidential Q. Would you visit more than one university to try to find individuals to work for Jeffrey Epstein? A. AsI recollect, I think that's, in fact, the only university I went to. Q. Did you go there more than once? A. I think I went twice. Q. Who else did you find from that university, was there anybody other than Johanna? A. I don't recollect, I'm sorry. Q. Weare going to mark this as Maxwell 13? (Maxwell Exhibit 13, documents, marked for identification.) Q. Can you take a look at the document I put in front of you, please. Are you familiar with this document? A. I'm familiar with this actual document. Q. How was this document created? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. Page 311 G Maxwell - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to form and foundation. A. Thonestly don't recall how, in that moment, how I met Johanna and how she came to get the job but... Q. Did you typically, in your work for Jeffrey Epstein, would you typically go to school campuses to try to find individuals to work for Jeffrey Epstein? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Inever -- what do you mean by school? Let's characterize school. Q. Any kind of school. A. Obviously not. I never went to any school with young people. Johanna, I believe came from an adult university, as I would know in England, so university, I went there but I never went, as I best recollect, anywhere else. Q. Did you -- what university was it that you went to? A. I don't recall the university that she went to right now. Page 313 G Maxwell - Confidential A. I don't know how this document was created. Q. You were involved in the creation of this document? A. I think you can see from the date that it's 2004, 2005, so no. Q. You weren't involved in the creation of this document. Did you -- we talked earlier about Mr. Epstein's house, I'm talking about the Palm Beach house where you said there was a computer on the desk, that employees had access to -- people who worked for Jeffrey Epstein may have had access to? A. I think anybody could have had access to that. Q. Was that computer used, if you know to keep a log of addresses and phone contact information for Jeffrey Epstein? A. Are we talking about when this document was created. Q. In general, was there, on that computer during the time that you were present with Jeffrey Epstein, was there a 9 (Pages 310 to 313) MAGNA® — LEGAL SERVICES