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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-4 Filed 01/09/24 Page 105 of 106 MIDUBRWNHKHRHOOAINID O&BWNHPR Page 410 G Maxwell - Confidential Q. Were there other flights that you recall flying on with Jeffrey Epstein that were on flights that -- where Dave Rogers was not the pilot? A. Dave Rogers was not always the pilot. Q. How many planes did Jeffrey Epstein have during the time you were with him? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. So you need to give me a date range. Q. During the time period of 1992 through when you left your employment which I think you said was in 2009? A. So in the '90s he had one plane and at some point in the 2000s he had two planes but I can't testify to anything past 2002, 2003, what happened to his planes after that. Q. Do you know what travel agency, if any, Jeffrey would use when he would send someone, for example, you or one of his other employees on a flight somewhere? Did he use a particular travel agency to make those DMIDMNAHBWNHRFPOWOCDIDA UYU AWNHE Page 412 G Maxwell - Confidential there in the course of the work you were doing for Jeffrey? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Iwas never sent. I had a job to do and I would have to go to New Mexico for work. Q. Would Sarah Kellen assist in that project? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. No. The project was largely complete, largely complete by the end -- I don't remember the dates exactly but it was largely complete by the 1990s, 2000s. Q. Do you know why Sarah Kellen would be going to New Mexico to meet you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Idon't know. She worked for Jeffrey. MR. PAGLIUCA: I think we are out of time, counsel. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: It's true. Page 411 G Maxwell - Confidential arrangements? A. I don't recall. Q. Were you ever responsible for making those arrangements for other individuals? A. I don't recall making flight arrangements. Q. Was it a New York travel agent that you would use for those arrangements? A. Again, we are talking 16, 17, 18 years. I just don't recall anything to do with travel agents. Q. Would Jeffrey Epstein ever fly, for example, Sarah Kellen on a commercial flight to meet you in New Mexico? MR. PAGLIUCA: Objection to the form and foundation. A. Ican't testify to that. Q. Do you recall a trip where you met Sarah Kellen in New Mexico? A. No, I don't recall any specific trip, no. Q. Why would you be sent to New Mexico, is there a reason wh Page 413 G Maxwell - Confidential MS. McCAWLEY: I will state for the record there were questions today that remain unanswered because the witness has been instructed not to answer those questions and we will be raising our objections with the court to be able to have those questions answered in the near future. MR. PAGLIUCA: So we are clear, we are designating this entire deposition as confidential under the protective order. That would cover the paralegal whose been present as well as the court reporter and the videographer and all the lawyers in the room. THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This concludes today's proceedings. We are off the record at 6:43 p.m. (Time noted: 6:43 p.m.) 04 (Pages 410 to 413) MAGNA® — LEGAL SERVICES