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OMNDNRWNK Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-6 Filed 01/09/24 Page 17 of 134 Page 58 J. Epstein - Confidential BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Maxwell has been present many times when you have had massages starting with sex, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Allright. Now, I want to go in the same exhibit, a little further in at page 146. All right. On page 146, line 22, do you see line 22 on page 146? A. Yes. Q. And do you see a question there that reads, "So would Virginia be brought on trips that were for the purpose of work and decorating the house?" Do you see that question? A. Yes. Q. And then do you see following on immediately the answer from Ms. Maxwell: "Like I said, I never worked with her, but you would have to ask Jeffrey what he brought her on the trip for." Do you see that answer? A. Yes. Q. And so I represent to you that that's an OMANDNRWNKE Page 60 J. Epstein - Confidential Virginia there for sexual purposes? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Maxwell was fully aware that Virginia was in New Mexico for sexual purposes, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Can you think of any other purpose which an attractive 17-year-old girl would be on your property at that time, sir? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Maxwell knew there was no other purpose for Virginia being there at that time other than sex, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. Page 59 J. Epstein - Confidential answer from Ms. Maxwell, and will you understand that as I ask further questions with regard to this transcript? A. Yes. Q. So following up on Ms. Maxwell's direction, I would like to ask you, why did you bring -- bring Virginia on the trip to New Mexico? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You did bring Virginia on a trip to New Mexico, true, sir? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Why did you bring Virginia on your trips with you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. With regard to the New Mexico trip that we're discussing here, isn't it true that you brought MAGNA® Page 61 J. Epstein - Confidential BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Is there anyone else I can talk to besides you, Virginia, and Maxwell to give information about why Virginia was at your ranch in New Mexico? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. There is no one else I can talk to you besides you, Virginia, and Maxwell to get exact information about why Virginia was at your ranch in New Mexico, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Let's go now to page -- actually, let me ask one quick question while I'm thinking about it, or I'll come back to that in a moment. Let's go to page 196. You see on line 3 of 196 you see a question: "What has Jeffrey told you about Virginia Roberts?" Do you see that, sir? A._ Yes. 16 (Pages 58 to 61) LEGAL SERVICES