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OMNDWNWKRWNE Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-6 Filed 01/09/24 Page 70 of 134 Page 270 J. Epstein - Confidential together on the phone with Virginia in about 2007, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Which of your attorneys was on the phone with Virginia in about 2007? A. Fifth. Q. Was it Mr. Goldberger? MR. WEINBERG: Attorney-client. MR. GOLDBERGER: And attorney-client. I apologize. I'm sorry. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. This is -- I'm talking about a telephone call where there was a third party, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, on the phone. That was Mr. Goldberger on the phone? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. MR. GOLDBERGER: And attorney-client privilege. Re Re RP RRR RH OMADNARWNKFOTOOMINIAUNUARWNH N pan Page 272 J. Epstein - Confidential A. Fifth. MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You suggested that those who talked to the FBI would be harmed, all those who did not, would be helped, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. And those communications you had with Virginia in 2007 influenced the settlement of Virginia's civil case against you in 2009? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. The first time you met Virginia Ghislaine Maxwell came up to the room with you as well, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. Page 271 J. Epstein - Confidential BY MR. CASSELL: Q. During the call, Mr. Epstein, you asked Virginia if she was going to say anything to the FBI, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. The clear implication of your question what to Virginia was that she should not say anything to the FBI, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You told Virginia directly or indirectly was the best thing for her and her family was to keep quiet, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. What did you tell Virginia i in 2007 when you were on the phone with an attorney? OANDNAWNK Page 273 J. Epstein - Confidential BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Please describe who was in the room, your massage room, the first time you met Virginia Roberts. MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Ghislaine Maxwell participated in the sexual abuse of Virginia the first time she came over to your house, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. What kind of instructions did Maxwell give Virginia when you first met Virginia? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. In fact, Maxwell instructed Virginia how to sexually please you the first time she met you, ht? MAG NA® 69 (Pages 270 to 273) LEGAL SERVICES