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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-6 Filed 01/09/24 Page 83 of 134
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was at a birthday party at your Palm Beach residence
outside by your pool in which the only other
attendees were children.
Is that a true statement or not?
MR. CASSELL: Foundation. Misstates
the record.
THE WITNESS: Fifth.
BY MR. PAGLIUCA:
Q. Itis, in fact, not true that you had any
birthday party with minor children in attendance at
your pool in Palm Beach, correct?
MR. CASSELL: Foundation.
THE WITNESS: Fifth.
BY MR. PAGLIUCA:
Q. Mr. Rizzo has also made some claims that
you had a number of younger-aged females in a
limousine and you went to the Dubin residence in --
outside of New York City. Is Mr. Rizzo's statement
about that false?
A. Fifth.
Q. And it is true that Mr. Rizzo has made up
that story about you and the Dubins in an attempt to
get money, correct?
MR. CASSELL: Form. Foundation.
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MS. MCCAWLEY: That's fine.
MR. CASSELL: -- and she'll backstop me
in case I miss a trick along the way, so...
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. CASSELL:
Q. We have the advantage by a very skilled
court reporter who's given us a -- essentially a
real-time transcript here.
But I noticed that on this real-time
transcript, at page 245, line 12, the question was
asked to you by Mr. Pagliuca, "Any relationship you
had, whether personal or business, ended with
Ms. Maxwell more than 15 years ago, correct?"
Do you recall being asked that question?
A. Fifth.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Well, I think you can
answer that -- you recall being asked this
question just --
MR. CASSELL: That's all I'm asking.
I'm not trying to trip him up here.
BY MR. CASSELL:
Q. Let me just restate that again.
Do you recall being asked the following
question: "Any relationship you had, whether
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THE WITNESS: Fifth.
BY MR. PAGLIUCA:
Q. Mr. Cassell asked you some questions about
some -- someone from Sweden who Mr. Rizzo claimed
that you somehow lured into the United States for
purposes of sexual trafficking.
That story by Mr. Rizzo is also false,
correct?
MR. CASSELL: Form. Foundation.
THE WITNESS: Fifth.
BY MR. PAGLIUCA:
Q. Do you believe that Eva Dubin, a medical
doctor, would participate in some scheme to sexually
traffic anyone?
MR. CASSELL: Form. Foundation. Calls
for speculation. Lack of personal
knowledge.
THE WITNESS: Fifth.
MR. PAGLIUCA: That's all the questions
Ihave.
MR. CASSELL: I may want to consult
with Ms. McCawley at some point, but maybe
it will make sense for me to try and kind of
see --
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personal or business, ended with Ms. Maxwell more
than 15 years ago, correct?"
A. What's the question? I'm sorry. Do I
remember the question?
Q. Any relationship you had --
A. No. Are you asking me do I remember --
Q. Do you remember being asked that particular
question?
A. Sitting here at the moment, I don't.
Q. Okay. I want to represent to you that you
were asked the question: "Any relationship you had,
whether personal or business, ended with Ms. Maxwell
more than 15 years ago, correct?"
A. I took the Fifth to that question, if
you're re-asking the question.
MR. GOLDBERGER: No. I think he's just
representing that that question was asked.
Don't -- and we can establish for purposes
of the record that question was asked.
THE WITNESS: Okay.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Okay.
BY MR. CASSELL:
Q. In fact, you had a number of continuing
personal interactions with Ms. Maxwell within the
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