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OMANDNRWNK Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1335-6 Filed 01/09/24 Page 85 of 134 Page 330 J. Epstein - Confidential BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Mr. Pagliuca was suggesting there was no basis in fact for some of the questions that I asked. One of the bases in fact would have been Ms. Maxwell's possession of a passport reflecting Virginia's age to be 17 at the time she flew into England with you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Can you ask the question? BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Isn't that true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Same objection. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You were asked questions about an e-mail in which you used the phrase "Hold your head high." Do you recall just being asked -- just being asked those questions? A. Yes. Q. I want to talk about the phrase -- now, I want to go into the substantive issues. With regard to the phrase "Hold your head high," the reason you used that phrase is, you didn't OMANDWNWRWNE J. Epstein - Confidential foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. What is your view of men who are decades older having sex with 17-year-old girls? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You believe that a man can hold his head high after having sex with a 16-year-old girl even if he's decades older than that girl, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You were asked various questions by Mr. Pagliuca -- MR. CASSELL: Am I pronouncing that -- MR. PAGLIUCA: No. MR. CASSELL: I'm sorry. MR. PAGLIUCA: The "G" is silent. Think lasagna. MR. CASSELL: Okay. Page 331 J. Epstein - Confidential think there was anything wrong with having sex with underage girls, do you? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. In fact, you have used words along the lines of having sex with a minor girl is like stealing a bagel, true? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. And that, in fact, is your view today about the status of having an adult man, decades older than an underage girl, having sex with that underage girl, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. What is your view of men who are decades older having sex with 16-year-old girls? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and Page 333 J. Epstein - Confidential MR. PAGLIUCA: Pal. He's your pal. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. You were asked some questions by Mr. Pagliuca -- got it, okay -- by Mr. Pagliuca about whether this litigation would affect you. You just recall being asked those questions? A. Yes. Q. With regard to those questions, it's true, sir, that this litigation will affect your reputation, right? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. Please describe all the ways in which you foresee this litigation affecting your reputation. MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to the form and foundation. THE WITNESS: Fifth. BY MR. CASSELL: Q. This litigation will affect the reputation of associates of yours, won't it? MR. PAGLIUCA: Object to form and MAG NA® 84 (Pages 330 to 333) LEGAL SERVICES