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wo omy num WN NN NN NH eH eH ee EB ep fe BwWNPF OW ON HUN BW NH O 193 firm about this -- being on an airplane with anybody who I believed could be the subject of Jeffrey Epstein or anyone else's improper sexual activities. MR. SCAROLA: Allright. Let's mark the transcript that we've been referring to as Exhibit Number |, please. That's the transcript of the television interviews that we'll be discussing. (Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff Exhibit 1) MR. SCOTT: This is actually 2, right? We had one yesterday, an article from the British newspaper? MR. SCAROLA: No. It was not marked as an exhibit. This is the first exhibit that's been marked. MR. SCOTT: No, I know that, but I thought we were going to mark that one. Maybe I was -- lL asked for that. Okay. It was an answer and counterclaim about the allegation shown to the witness. MR. SCAROLA: And Exhibit Number 2 will be the transcript from yesterday's proceedings that I have just referenced. (Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff wo OADM B® WD NNN NN DD HY HP HE BH eH HY eH eH moP® WN FH OO WA HD i B® WN FO A. I don’t remember that I flew with her or not. I may have. But I don't recall necessarily. But I did meet -- I remember meeting a woman named Tatiana. This does not look like Tatiana, like the woman I met. Q. Okay. So that's a -- that's a different Tatiana? A. No, I don't know. MR. SCOTT: Objection, form, argumentative. A. [have no idea. I do not recognize this woman. She's not familiar to me at all. I can tell you this: Without any doubt, | never met anybody dressed like this on any airplane or in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein or in any context -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Did she have -- A. -- Telated to this case. Q. -- more clothes on or less clothes on when you met her? MR. SCOTT: Objection, form. He said he never met her. Misrepresent -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. When you met the woman that you're 194 Exhibit 2.) MR. SCOTT: You don't have a copy of that, do you, of the transcript? MR. SCAROLA: No. Got sent to you. I assume you have it. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. I'm going to hand you what we'll now mark as Exhibit Number 3. (Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff Exhibit 3.) MR. SCOTT: There's no question. MR. SWEDER: Yes. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Do you recognize that young woman, Mr. Dershowitz? . No. . Never saw her? . Not that I know of. . Never flew on an private airplane with . Not that I know of. . Do you recognize the name Tatiana? I do recall that Jeffrey Epstein had a friend named Tatiana. Q. That you flew with? ow od DAM bb WN NNNNN NP PPP BP ee oe eB mee WD FY CO WO DTH WM &® WY NY FP OO 196 referencing, did she have more clothes on or less clothes on than that woman? A. Every woman that I met in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein was properly dressed, usually in suits and dresses and -- and appropriately covered up. I never met any women in the context of Jeffrey Epstein who were dressed anything like this. Q. Would you agree that that is a young woman in that photograph? A. [have no idea what her age is. Q. So you don't know whether she was underage or overage or a young woman or not a young woman? A. [don't -- MR. SCOTT: Objection, form. A. -- know this woman, so I have no idea how old a woman in a picture is. She could be -- she could be 30. She could be 25. I have no idea. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Or she could be 15 or 16? A. I don't think so. Q. But you don't know? A. This doesn't -- well, I don't know how old you are. This does not strike me -- Q. Old enough to know that — MR. SCOTT: You're cutting -- 5 (Pages 193 to 196) www. phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010787