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wo owt no PF WN EH NNNNNN BPP BP BP BP ee BP oe oe UR WNHEOwW AIK KH BWNRE OO oad Am & WN NM NM MN NY HY HE EF YP EP YP YP HY ub WN FP OM OTH MH PF WwW NF OO 209 Q. Okay. So you now are withdrawing the statement that you made that Virginia Roberts said that Bill Clinton was with her at an orgy on Jeffrey's island; that was wrong? A. I don't know whether she ever said that. I would not repeat that statement and have not repeated that statement based on her denial. As soon as she denied it, | never again made that statement and would not again make that statement. Q. You -—- A. But I did reiterate the fact that she committed perjury when she said she was on the island with Bill Clinton. MR. SCAROLA: Move to strike the nonresponsive -- A. That was the perjurious statement. MR. SCAROLA: Move to strike the nonresponsive portions of the answer. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You have made a reference during that same CNN interview to this woman, referring to Virginia Roberts, having a criminal record? A. That's right. Q. Okay. What -- what is a criminal record? A. Well, the way | used the term is that she a IAM & WwW NY NNN NNN FP HE RE EP HE BE HB He eB wm PWN FEF OO WO MATH MN F&F wWNY HF OW 211 Your client is doing everything he can to avoid giving direct answers to these questions. I would appreciate it if you would take a break, counsel your client that the speeches are not helpful to anyone, and especially not helpful to him. MR. SCOTT: If you want to take a break, I'll take a break and I will advise my client whatever I feel is appropriate, not what you instruct me to do. MR. SCAROLA: Okay. Well, if you think it might help at all in the progress of this deposition, then I do want to take a break. If you don't think taking a break would be helpful, I don't want to take a break. MR. SCOTT: Do you want to take a break or not? THE WITNESS: I'm going to leave it to your judgment. I'm happy to proceed -- MR. SCOTT: Okay. I'll be glad to take a break. MR. SCAROLA: Thank you. MR. SCOTT: I can't say -- MR. SCAROLA: Five minutes. MR. SCOTT: -- it will help you or 210 committed a crime and legal -- some kind of proceedings resulted from her committing a crime. The crime she committed was stealing money from a restaurant that she worked at while she was also working for Jeffrey Epstein. And it was my information that there was a criminal record of her theft. Q. How old was she at the time this alleged offense occurred? A. [don't know. But old enough to be held criminally responsible in the State of Florida, to my knowledge. To my knowledge, | -- I recall a case where a 14-year-old boy was sentenced as an adult for -- MR. SCAROLA: Mr. Scott -- A. -- a Serious ~~ MR. SCAROLA: -- did my question ask anything about a 14-year-old boy? A. Youasked if -- MR. SCAROLA: Do we really need to listen to this? MR. SCOTT: You're asking questions, my client is providing his response. MR. SCAROLA: No, your client is not responding. Your client is filibustering. oy BDI HH we WN 212 anything but -- MR. SCAROLA: I can understand that you don't -- you don’t have that control, but if there's any reasonable -- MR. SCOTT: You know, Counsel -- MR. SCAROLA: -- prospect that it might help, let's give it a try. MR. SCOTT: You know, I really don't appreciate the comments about my abilities as an attorney, like | don't have that control and things of nature. It really is -- MR. SCAROLA: I don't have the contro! either. MR. SCOTT: It's not -- MR. SCAROLA: I'm not trying to disparage you at all in any respect. I'm just suggesting that -- MR. SCOTT: Okay. MR. SCAROLA: -- there is reason to doubt that it will do any good. But I want to give ita try. MR. SCOTT: Okay. Fine. Thank you. MR. SCAROLA: Thank you. VIDEOGRAPHER: Going off the record. The time is approximately 9:49 a.m. 9 (Pages 209 to 212) www.phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010791