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po on AM FF WN EF ON NN NY NY FF FP BP FP FP RF Fr re URW NF OM OND MO Fw NY FP OO 245 that you were in the same place at the same time — A. First -- Q. --as Virginia Roberts? MR. SCOTT: Let him ask the question. THE WITNESS: Okay. MR. SCOTT: Then you answer the question. And Mr. Searola will try to, you know, keep the emotion down, I'm sure, so we can get through this with less acrimony between everybody here. A. Your client has adamantly refused, as well as the lawyer -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. No, sir, that's nonresponsive to my question. MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. My question is: Do you deny that the flight logs corroborate that you were in the same place at the same time as Virginia Roberts? A. So the question includes the word "time" and, therefore, I must answer in this way. Your client -- Q. How to build a watch? MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute, you're cutting him off. He's been trying to answer the po On DM BB WN NNNNNN PRP BP BP Re Po Mob WN HF OO OT AW BW NH Oo 247 I would be very anxious to see any timeframes when Virginia Roberts claims she was with me on the island, claims she was with me on -- at the ranch, claims she was with me on the airplanes, claims she was with me in Palm Beach. And they will all conclusively -- . You forgot -- . -- prove -- . New York. Didn't you mean New York . No, I did not mean New York -- . Oh, okay. . +- because New York is very different. I was, in fact, in New York for large periods of time. I was not, in fact, on the island during the relevant timeframe. I was not in the airplane in the relevant timeframe. I was not in Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home in the relevant timeframe. And I was once in the ranch but under circumstances where it would have been absolutely impossible for me to have had any contact with her. So if you will give me the timeframe, I will be happy to answer your question. But without timeframes, that question is an absolutely inappropriate question. And the answer to if is no. ————} 246 question. A. Your client has adamantly refused, and her lawyers and your clients have refused to give me any timeframes, any timeframes when your clicnt claims that she had improper -- falsely claims, perjuriously claims that she had improper sexual encounters with me. So how can you possibly ask me a question that includes the word "timeframes" when your client has refused -- when Virginia Roberts has refused to give any timeframes? How can it be possible that the flight logs show me being in the same time and saine place with her when she has refused to describe any of the times that she claims to have been in those places? So the answer to the question is categorically no, sir. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. What is the question that you are answering no to? A. Whether or not the timeframe shows that I could have been in the samc placc at the same time as your client. Absolutcly not. Because we don't know what times your clicnt -- now, if you know that, you should have produced them in discovery and own ODN DUM FWD NNNNN NF PER BB eH BB oe OP WNYHF OM DIAM BW NR 248 Q. Well, Mr. Dershowitz, it might be inappropriate if you had not repeatedly made the public statements that the flight logs exonerate you. A, They do. Q. So what I am attempting to find out is the basis upon which you can contend that the flight logs exonerate you if you are now telling us you don't even know when it is that you are alleged to have been in the same place at the same time as Virginia Roberts. A. Okay. Q. So how -- how can you make both those statements? A. Very simple, because I know the timeframe that Virginia Roberts, A, knew Jeffrey Epstein. And during that timeframe, I can conclusively prove that 1 was never on Jeffrey Epstein's island where she claimed to have sex with me. That the only time I was at the ranch was with my wife, with the Ashe family, with my daughter, the house was under construction, we just simply stayed outside the house and looked around. That the manifests show | was never on Jeffrey Epstein's plane during that period of time. And the manifests show that I never 18 (Pages 245 to 248) www.phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010800