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oOnmnra nu FWD NNNNNNFPPRP PPE PPP OUEBWNHH OW AIH UU AWNHE O wo wmamn nm ® WD NNNNN DYN HB ew ee ee pe EY OM ® WN FHF oO WO WOAH WU S&F WN FO 281 What was his motive against you? A. I was Jeffrey Epstein’s friend and lawyer and, in fact -- well, | can't get into this. But I can say this, I gave advice -- MR. SCOTT: Be careful about anything involving -- THE WITNESS: Okay. MR. SCOTT: -- Mr. Epstein, please. A. He could easily have believed that 1 was one of the causes of his firing. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. So, he was -- he may have been angry at you because you assisted in getting him fired? A. It's -- MR. SCOTT: Objection, mischaracterization. A. It's conjecture. It's possible. But in any event, even -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. It's conjecture, is that what you were about to say? A. I’m saying I have -- I don't know what he was thinking, but there is a basis for him believing that. But most -- most important, even if you take everything he says as true, which it's not, it's wo Os nM FW NY NN NN NN He bt Rob pop pp be Oe WN HE OO ON AH eB WRK eH 283 A. Yes. Q. A man who would never undertake to advance the cause of a client whom he believed to be incredible, right? A. Yes. And a man who told me and a man who -- MR. SCOTT: That's it. A. Okay. And aman who believes I'm innocent. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You know that Bob Josefsberg would never file charges on behalf of a client alleging that she was lent out by Jeffrey Epstein for purposes of sexual abuse while she was a minor to academicians unless he absolutely had confidence that those statements were true -- MR. SCOTT: Let me object - BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. ~~ right? MR. SCOTT: -- that this is completely irrelevant to the issues in this case. Whatever Mr. Josefsberg thinks has nothing to do with this lawsuit. This is all your effort to try to put Josefsberg into this case to try to give some justification to your position. 282 exculpatory because it has no suggestion that | ever had any sexual encounter with Virginia Roberts. And if | were a lawyer reading that -- MR. SCOTT: It’s okay? A. -- [certainly would not base this heinous accusation on that flimsy read. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You know the context in which that deposition was taken, don't yeu? A. I don't recall it as I'm sitting here today. Q. Do you remember that the lawsuit in which that deposition was taken was a lawsuit in which Virginia Roberts was being represented by Bob Josefsberg? A. No. Q. You know Bob Josefsberg, don't you? A. We -- we were classmates at law school. Q. You know Bob Josefsberg to be an extremely ethical, highly professional and extraordinarily well-respected lawyer, right? . Absolutely, yes. . Absolutely? . Yeah. A man of impeccable honesty and integrity? Ww oar nuth WN RB NNNNNNFPRPP PPP BP Pe OBWNHF Oban nuhwWNHO A. I'll answer that question. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Thank you. A. And also know Bob Josefsberg and know that he would never maintain a friendship, as he has with me, if he believed that | was one of the, quote, academicians -- Q. Well, how about — A. -- with whom -- Q. -- answering my question -~ MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute. No, no, no. A. You're going to let me finish. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Lknow I'm going to go, but I don't have to like it ~ MR. SCOTT: Yeah, but -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. ~- when you're not being responsive to the questions that are being asked. MR. SCOTT: Yeah, but you're interjecting — BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. And -- MR. SCOTT: You're interjecting questions that are irrelevant utilizing Bob Josefsberg's 27 (Pages 281 to 284) www.phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010809