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01:23:43 01:23:45 04:23:47 01:23:47 01:23:47 01:23:48 01:23:50 On OH h w® DD 04:23:51 ie) 01:23:81 10 or:23:52 14 or2382 12 or23s¢ 13 or2sss 14 ov23s7 15 otzase 16 or2or 17 or203 18 o12403 19 or2404 20 o12eos 24 or:24.07 22 o124.07 23 or2607 24 or2408 25 04:23:51 04:24:14 04:24:14 09:24:15 04:24:19 04:24:27 01:24:32 01:24:33 On OA mh WD 01:24:36 ie) 01:24:40 10 or2aas 14 or2aae 12 oma 13 or2asa 14 or2ass 15 012802 16 orzs0s 17 orzsi2 18 orvzsis 19 or2517 20 012823 24 012826 22 0125-23 23 or2532 24 or2s36 25 09:24:43 19 of 38 sheets 73 we would be happy to make it available to you. MR. SIMPSON: And -- and I'll give you an opportunity to look at that -- THE WITNESS: Sure -~ BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. -- but I'm entitled to ask first about your recollection. A. Okay. Q. Based on your recollection -- A. Right. Q, -- I want to know all the evidence -- A. Right. Q. -- you were relying on here. A. to make a list here on my -- on my notepad of all the So what -- what I'm going to do is, I'm going things, and then I'm going to compare that with notes I have here. There may be a couple things that I don't cover. Q. As long as your counsel is okay with that. Yeah. Q. You understand you'll have to give that to > A. Yeah. I'll give you the notes -- Q. All right. A. -- and then I will compare with what I've got ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 74 there. So I mentioned the Palm Beach Police Department report. The next thing that I want to mention is the Jane Doe 102 complaint. In August of 2009, Bob Josefsberg -~ who is, from what I understood, a very well-regarded lawyer here in Florida; in fact, a lawyer that was selected by the United States Government to represent a number of the -- of the girls that had been sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein. He was -- he was part of the procedure that was including the nonprosecution agreement. In August of 2009, he filed a complaint on behalf of Virginia Roberts. That complaint indicated that Virginia Roberts had been sexually abused in Florida, in New York, and in -- in other places, as I recall. The thing that -- that I particularly recall was that Mr. Josefsberg had said, Virginia Roberts was abused by -- and he gave some categories of people. He mentioned, I think, business people. He mentioned royalty, and he mentioned academicians. And so to tie into your question, I knew that Professor Dershowitz was an academician. And so what I was seeing now was, that according to a very, very respected attorney here in Florida, he had found Virginia Roberts to be credible, and had filed a lawsuit against ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 04:25:38 01:25:44 01:25:44 04:25:48 01:25:49 04:28:52 04:25:58 On Om Rh WD = 01:26:00 ie) 01°26:05 orz608 10 012613 14 ov2616 12 orig 13 012623 14 012628 15 012628 16 012631 17 orze3s 18 or23aa 19 or26e4 20 o12643 24 or26s1 22 o+2653 23 01:26:87 24 25 01:27:01 01:27:01 04:27:04 04:27:06 01:27:08 OVQ74 01:27:18 04:27:18 ON OA kh OD 01:27:21 ie) 01:27:25 10 ox2733 14 orarze 12 oraras 13 or273a 14 ororaa 15 or27as 16 ovarss 17 orarse 18 overs 19 or27se 20 or27ss 24 ovarses 22 0128.00 23 or2a0s 24 orzs0s 25 04:27:36 Mr. Epstein saying that she had been trafficked, sexually trafficked, you know, not just abused by Mr. Epstein, but now being forcibly sent to, you know, other people to abuse. And in the categories of people that were sexually abusing her were academicians, and I knew that Mr. Dershowitz fell within that category of -- of being an academician. The -~ that complaint also indicated that there might be flight logs that would show that Virginia Roberts had been sexually abused in these various locations. And that started to indicate to me that there might be what the law refers to as a common scheme or plan. And that, just as Virginia Roberts was being trafficked to these powerful people in various places, there might well be other girts. And so I have mentioned a flight log, and let you -~ you wanted to talk about Mr. Dershowitz. On -- on December 30th, 2009, I was aware that there was a flight log showing Mr. Dershowitz flying with Tatiana, who as far as I can tell was not a business person, was not providing financial advice or something else. I understood that Mr. Epstein was a billionaire who was heavily involved in financial issues. I knew that Tatiana was on a plane with Mr, Dershowitz, and then there was also, if I recall ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 76 correctly, working from memory as -~ as you were wondering about, there was a notation that Mr, Dershowitz was on a plane with one female. And so I was -~ when I looked at that, I'm seeing Mr. Dershowitz on a -- on a flight with a woman who doesn't seem to be there for, frankly anything other than sexual purposes or something along those lines with Mr. Epstein, with Mr, Epstein, who is a sex trafficker, and with one female which seemed to me to be a potential entry for disguising international sex trafficking. So that was of concern, I then began to look at, well, I wonder, how would I find out if Mr. Dershowitz had been abusing other girls? Let's see. I knew that Virginia Roberts had been forced to -~ to -- to -- to do this sort of thing. MS. McCAWLEY: You're okay as long as you're -~ if you're revealing something that's in an affidavit -- THE WITNESS: That's right. MS. McCAWLEY: -- that she submitted, you're fine. THE WITNESS: Right. So -~- so what... Let's see. What did I want, at this point -- ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 Page 73 to 76 of 151 10/20/2015 01:07:28 PM HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010828