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01:14:53 04:14:55 04:44:58 01:14:59 01:15:00 04:15:04 01:15:04 On OMA hk GO bh «A 01:45:07 os07 9 orts07 10 04:48:07 11 ot1s08 12 ovtsio 13 04:15:42 14 ots 15 onsi7 16 onts20 17 04:18:22 18 04:15:24 19 orts2e 20 01:18:30 21 04:18:35 22 orisae 23 ons 24 atsas 25 Ot:15:514 01:15:53 04:18:55 04:15:58 01:15:59 04:16:02 04:16:05 01:46:07 man oak © hb «a 01:16:09 ores 10 onere 14 ot1617 12 ore 13 ortezz2 14 ortezs 15 ort28 16 ot633 17 ovtess 18 ovtess 19 orte30 20 artes 21 ortess 22 ones? 23 ones? 24 orreso 25 17 of 38 sheets 65 supports that allegation. A. Okay. The privileged information, obviously, you're asking me not to reveal at this point. Q. I'm asking you -- I'm asking you to tell me the nonprivileged information. And I'm not agreeing with your privilege assertion -- A. Sure. Q. = --- but for purposes of this question -- A. For purposes of this question. Q. _ -- I'm accepting it. A. All right. Q. Putting aside what you claim is privileged, I want to know everything that's the factual basis for including the allegation about other minors. A. Okay. Privileged information which I'm not disclosing in any way would have interacted with a vast body of other information. The vast body of other information would have started with an 89-page police report from the Palm Beach Police Department that showed for about a six-month period in 2005, there was sexual abuse of minor girls going on on a daily basis, in -- whenever Jeffrey Epstein was in his Paim Beach mansion. And on some cases, it was going on not once, not twice, but three times during the day. That -- let ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 66 me just be clear. I mean, I -- I referred to the 89-page police report. I have offered to put it into the record if -- if it would speed things up, but let's just talk about some of the things that are in that 89-page police report. This was a -- a very intensive investigation that the Palm Beach Police Department put together. They did, for example, what are called trash covers; that is when trash came out of the -- of the mansion of Epstein, the police would intercept the trash and then they would go through the trash and lock for incriminating information. And what they began to discover was memo pads -- and I say "memo pads," let's be clear, pad after pad after pad, or I guess I should say, sheet after sheet after sheet that had the name of a girl, and then there was a notation of something to the effect of a massage. And so the Palm Beach Police Department began tracking down, well, wait a minute, these -- these are girls giving massages and they don't seem to have any specialized training in massages; they don't seem to be masseuses in any sense of the term; what's going on here? And so the Palm Beach Police Department ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 01:16:52 04:16:54 04:16:57 04:16:59 01:17:02 04:17:03 01:17:06 01:47:09 OWonr Ook Wh = OUI O1d7:417 10 OATS 11 OV17:22 1 2 04:17:25 1 3 04:47:28 14 04:47:28 15 01:47:30 16 04:17:35 17 O4,47:36 18 04:47:38 19 O417:40 20 04:17:43 21 O11748 22 04:47:53 23 04:17:57 24 04:47:59 25 04:18:04 01:18:03 04:48:06 04:18:07 04:18:10 04:18:42 04:18:14 01:18:48 moon Oak | Lh a= 04:18:21 orte27 10 ovteze 11 ovse32 12 otras 13 onta3e 14 orteas 15 ovisas 16 04:18:46 17 arsaso 18 ortes3 19 orrase 20 ottess 21 onese 22 011902 23 o1907 24 oni912 25 Page 65 to 68 of 151 67 began, you know, I guess what we would call knock-and-talks, knocking on doors to try to get to some of these girls, and they would get to the girls, and many of them initially were -- were afraid to explain what had happened. But as they -- as they continued talking to them, the girls began to explain that what was happening was, they were going over to Epstein's house under the guise of giving a massage, and when they got there, the massage was, in fact, sexual activity. And for many of the girls, I think, as I say around 23, 24, something along those lines, they were underage. They were under the age of consent in Florida. And so each and every one of those events was a crime being perpetrated -- and let's be clear, not just being perpetrated by Epstein, but by other people who were involved there at the mansion. And so what the -- the Palm Beach Police Department was putting together was that this mansion in Florida was the nest of sexual abuse of young girls here in Florida that involved, literally, in the -- in this period of time, more than a hundred events that they were able to document of sexual abuse. And when you put that together with the ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 68 pattern or practice that was being revealed there, there were hundreds of acts of sexual abuse going on in the mansion. But then what becomes -- and this is where I indicated that, you know, the answer would continue on, The -- the problem was that the evidence was starting to show that this was a much broader series of events. For example, there were flight logs showing that Mr. Epstein was then flying with underaged girls, and those flight logs, you know, as -- as the flight logs began to develop, for example, we have seen, I know in the last day or two here, one underage girl was Virginia Roberts who is on the flight, you know, with Epstein, and with Maxwell, and those sorts of things. So you start to look at the flight logs and you see what's going on is not just events that are occurring in Florida, but it's occurring ona multi-state basis, which now starts to make it a federal crime. For example, we are seeing evidence that -- let's just talk about Virginia Roberts since she's central to this case. We are seeing Virginia Roberts being flown from Florida to New York where she's in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein who is sexually abusing her, you know, many times a week. And not just Jeffrey Epstein, but ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 10/20/2015 01:07:28 PM HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010826