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95 93 ovaass 1 for the production had been carefully crafted to keep ose 1 THE WITNESS: Right. No, I mean, I want to omas? 2 him out of it; in other words, te not produce the onsese «2 make -- I want to make clear that there was a lot orasso 3 October 2005 version. orse37 3 of information that I was relying on in filing o1:4503 4 The other thing I -- I began to discover as I orvasao | 4 this pleading, and -- and, of course, the later o4s05 5 started going through some flight logs, Dave Rogers, who | ots42 § pleading. So we are on the subject of flight oasce 6 is one of I think about three pilots that -- that orgs = 6 logs. oi4s10 «7 ~=©Epstein regularly relied on to fly his -- you know, he oraese 7 Flight logs showed that the flight logs 4513 8 had very fancy -- to use the technical term -- jets. ores = 8 Mr. Dershowitz had produced to Detective Recarey o:4si8 9 There were about -- there were about three pilots there. araeag 9 were incomplete and inaccurate. And so that led or45:20 10 One of them had some flight logs and that -- orass2 10 to concern on my part that Mr. Dershowitz had had o4s24 14° «that was Pilot Dave Rogers, if I'm recalling his name ores 11 an opportunity to sanitize the flight logs, 014528 12 correctly. And so later on in the litigation, the sex arses? 12 had -- had -- had provided incomplete production, o4s30 13 «abuse litigation against Epstein, flight logs were ovaror 13 you know, obviously, very important production eras 14 obtained from Dave Rogers, and it was possible to -- to oraro2 14 that the Palm Beach Police Department was looking 014537 15 compare -- I'm sorry. I don't mean to ~~ I want to make = | o1a70s 15 at. ovas4o 16 sure I get -- you know, the question is: How much can I oraros 16 Then we got some additional flight logs from o4s42 17 remember and I'm trying to make sure I get -- get it all orzo 17 Dave Rogers. And what those flight logs orvasae 18 in. oraz 18 showed -- first off, let's talk again about or4sas 19 And so the flight logs were produced from orarsa 19 the -- the production of those flight logs. ovasae 20 Dave Rogers. And so Dave Rogers produced some flight ovat? 20 My recollection is that Dave Rogers's flight 014551 21 logs, and some of the flights that he produced logs for 0147.21 21 logs were provided by Bruce Reinhart who was a asses 22 coincided with the logs that Mr. Dershowitz had provided | 014724 22 former Assistant U.S. Attorney who had been a14ss9 23 to the Palm Beach Police Department, and there were orarze 23 inside the Southern District of Florida Office at oas01 24 inconsistencies, And so that, again, aroused my orar2 24 a time when the Epstein case was the subject of oreos 25 suspicion that maybe Mr. Dershowitz when he had -- oraraz 25 regular discussion in that office. ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 94 96 oraeos 14 MR. SCOTT: I just got a call from a lawyer oraras 1 And then he had gone to work for some kind of onsen 2 on the screen. His -- his phone is not working, ora7as «2 a -- a law firm or private operation that was orae10 «3 Epstein's lawyer, Darren Indyke. orarag 3 located adjacent to Mr. Epstein's business. And oreo | 4 MR. SIMPSON: Why don't -- oraraa 4 so, now, Reinhart, who appeared to be being paid oraets 5 MR. SCAROLA: Do you want to take a break for orvaras | 8 by Mr. Epstein, and certainly was adjacent to onaeiz 6 a second? oraras G Mr. Epstein's business office, was producing ores? 7 MR. SIMPSON: Well, why don't -- well, why ovarsr 7 these flight logs. ose? 8 don't we Jet him finish his answer? orarse 8 So that, again, aroused suspicion that the orets | 9 MR. SCAROLA: Let him finish the answer. ovarsa 9 flight logs that were being produced would have or46:20 10 MR. SCOTT: Yeah, let's do that. You're ora7s7 10 been sanitized or inaccurate. orag:20 14 right. orarss 114 But even -- I mean, you know, I think the o146.21 12 MR. SCAROLA: Although it may take a while. ovaso0 12 problem with -- you know, you can't sanitize ovse2 13 THE WITNESS: It -- it's, I mean, the orasioz 13 everything. That would be too suspicious. And oven, 14 question -- oras04 14 so what -- what was -- was -- what was evident on orae21 15 MR. SCAROLA: Yeah. But let's -~ oraaor 15 these flight logs was, for example, approximately ares2s 16 MR. SCOTT: I don't care. oraats 16 ten flights by Mr. Dershowitz with Tatiana has -- 01:05:25 17 MR. SCAROLA: Okay. Let's -- let's go ahead ovata 17 has been discussed; with Maxwell; with Jeffrey ove27 18 and finish. oraaz1 18 Epstein. One of them had one female, which, orae2r 19 MR. SCOTT: Let's go ahead and finish the oraazs 19 again, in the context that I was looking at, orse-20 20 answer. We heard this much. orae27 20 seemed to be a potential code word for aras2e 21 MR. SCAROLA: Good. Thank you. orae2e 21 underage -- underage girl. ar4sz0 22 THE WITNESS: Okay. So there -- 01832 22 And so those flight logs showed, you know, o4e31 23 MR. SCOTT: I don't want to break him ona 01:48:35 23 again, close association and travel with -- ora632 24 roll. or4ea0 24 with -- with -- with Mr. Dershowitz, and oras33 25 MR, SCAROLA: Thanks. orasar 25 Mr. Epstein. ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 (954) 331-4400 10/20/2015 01:07:28 PM Page 93 to 96 of 151 24 of 38 sheets HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010833