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208 210 005722 4 A. I was thinking of that as well. oossoa | 1 A. Trecall his testimony to that effect, yes. ous722 2 BY MR, SIMPSON: oossto 2 Q. And you testified that no support for that oosr2 3 Q. Let me -- oose14 3 had been produced in discovery; is that correct? oos7:23 4 A. Iwasn't -- ousote 4 A. That's my understanding, yes. oosr2a 5 Q. Let me -- cose 5 Q. Isn't it true that in Mr. Alessi's oos725 6 A. -- following their answer. oos9:20 6 deposition, he describes that under oath and says that costs 7 Q. Let me -- let me just ask a different oo5923 7 it happened? oo3727 8 question. oose2 «8 A. Idon't have a recollection of criminal ous727 9 A. Sure. Thanks. oos0:27 9 charges having been discussed in the Alessi deposition. 0057.31 10 Q. You testified that you have -- at some coso31 10 Q. Is it -- well, let me -- let me ask you: Is os73s 11 fength, about why you question the accuracy of the oose:34 11 it your testimony that you understood that, in fact, oos740 12 flight logs, correct? oose40 12 Miss Roberts had been accused of stealing money from her oos74a 13 A. Correct. ooseaa 13° employer? oos743 14 Q. But I may be redundant, but you don't oosear 14 MS. McCAWLEY: I'm going to object to the oos74s 15 question that what they show on their face supports co-so-4a 15 extent it gets into any conversations that you ovs74a 16 Professor Dershowitz's testimony -- ooseaa 16 had with Virginia on any of these issues. cos74a 17 MS. McCAWLEY: Objection. oo.sos2 17 THE WITNESS: Yeah, I'm trying to -- if your oosraa 18 BY MR. SIMPSON: oosass 18 question is about the Alessi depo, I don't -- cos7so 19 Q.___-- that he was not on a plane with Virginia oo:se:sa 19 don't immediately recall him discussing -~- 00:57:52 20 Roberts? or:0001 20 discussing them. oos7:s3 21 A. The -- you know, the -- the sex trafficking oro003 21 BY MR. SIMPSON: os7ss 22 ring run by Jeffrey Epstein has produced Epstein flight | 01-0004 22 Q. If lrepresent to you that Mr. Alessi, in his os7s9 23 logs that appear to show that -- that Dershowitz and 010007 23 deposition, referred to a police report and an arrest of oos804 24 Virginia Roberts are not on the plane, so... or0011 24 Miss Roberts, do you have any reason to question that? ooseos 25 Q. So the answer to my question is, yes? o10013 25 MR. SCAROLA: Could we -- could we pull out ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 (954) 331-4400 211 cosa0g | 14 MR, SCAROLA: I'm sorry. or0014 1 the deposition? And if you have got a reference oosa09 | 2 THE WITNESS: Which question now? ovoars 2 in the deposition, let's take a look at it. oose10 «3 MR. SIMPSON: The question you just -- could ooo = 3 MR. SIMPSON: I'm just asking for his cose 4 you read back my -- my question and the answer? ones = 4 recollection right now. The document will speak osei2 & BY MR. SIMPSON: or0020 5 for itself. But I want to -- oosear 6 Q. Let me ask it again. or0021 6 MR. SCAROLA: Yes, it will. ooses1 7 . Okay. oroo21 7 MR. SIMPSON: He -- he made a very serious cosas: 8 . That's fine. oroo23 8 accusation. I would like to get an answer to my oose33 | 9 I mean, I thought I was -- o1oo2s 9 question. Does he recall whether, in that oosesa 10 MR. SCAROLA: There's no question pending. or00:27 10 deposition that all the parties in this case ooseca 11 THE WITNESS: I'm sorry. oroo23 14 have, Mr, Alessi said under oath, that she had cosess 12 BY MR. SIMPSON: or0032 12 been arrested and charged with stealing from her oosaas 13 Q. What were you about to say? or0034 13 employer. oosa3e 14 A. Iwas about to say that the records that they otooas 14 THE WITNESS: When you -- the question built oosa30 15 produced -- I'm -- I'm sorry... ovooar 15 in a serious accusation, the -- the -- the -- the 00:50:42 16 Q. The records -- the records that were oroose 16 statement I was making is that we had propounded ovse44 17 produced -- oro 17 an interrogatory to Mr. Dershowitz saying: ooseaa 18 A. On-- on their face, I cannot give youa orcas 18 What's the basis for your assertion that cosa? 19 flight log that has Virginia Roberts and Alan Dershowitz | 010048 19 Miss Roberts had a criminal record? And that ooseso 20 sitting next to each other, yes. or0049 20 answer didn't refer to an Alessi depo. If it -- oose:s1 21 Q. And you also -- you also testified a moment ovoos: 24 this is one of the problems that I'm having. 005854 22 ago that Professor Dershowitz in his testimony in the orooss 22 When -- when -- you know, when you come into ovses7 23 fast couple of days, had testified that Virginia Roberts or00ss 23 a deposition, both sides are supposed to turn o0:s903 24 had been arrested for stealing cash; do you refer -- do oro0sa 24 everything over, And then if I get a question cose0s 25 you recall that? or0100 25 about, well, what if -- you know, we're relying ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 10/20/2015 01:08:15 PM 15 of 46 sheets Page 208 to 211 of 335 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010855