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032001 1 have gone about trying to -- to put pressure for a -- a
032003 2 favorable plea deal.
o32006 3 Q. And that's what you just referred to as
032008 4 speculation, correct?
osz000 5 A. Well, your question said: Well, how would
o3201 § they go do this? And I -- I-- I gave you my answer as
3201 7 to how I think somebody could well do that, yes.
ox21 8 Q. And -- and your pleading doesn't allege how
032022 9 someone would do it; it alleges that they did it; isn't
032026 10 that correct?
032027 11 A. Did what?
032027 12 Q. Let me -- let me rephrase it.
032020 13 A. No. I--I-- the --
032030 14 Q._ I -- I withdraw the question.
03:20:20 15 A. Yeah.
032036 16 Q. We only have about ten minutes here. There
032023 17 are a couple of things that I --
032038 18 A. Sure. Absolutely.
03:20:41 19 QQ. _-- wanted to get before we -- we will come
032041 20 back to these when we resume. We have a lot more
032043 24 questions.
032048 22 A. Great. I look forward to it.
032046 23 MR. SIMPSON: I'm going to ask the reporter
ox2048 24 to mark as Exhibit -- what are we up to -- 6,
ox20ss 25 Exhibit 6, a document bearing Bates stamp numbers
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axa 1 BE-510 through -514.
o32101 2 (Cassell's 1.D. Exhibit No. 6 - series of
21:01 3 e-mails, Bates numbered BE-510 - -514 was marked for
o32118 4 identification.)
a2ii3 5 BY MR. SIMPSON:
zie «6 Q. I will give that to the witness. And to
o3x2130 7 identify the document further, it's a series of e-mails,
032136 8 the most -- the latest one in date being at the top,
03210 9 which appears to be an e-mail from Paul Cassell to
os2iaa 10 Jacqueline S. Jesko on Sunday, January 4th, 2015 at
o32i40 14 = 12:48 p.m.
03:21:51 12 A. Right.
osars1 13 Q. My first question is whether you, in fact,
032187 14 sent this e-mail that -- that this -- had this exchange
022202 15 of e-mails with Miss Jesco?
ox2z04 16 A. Yes.
032204 17 Q. And Miss Jesko -- who is Miss Jesko?
032208 18 A. She works for -- which -- which -- oh,
032213 19 Nightline. She works for Nightline, yes.
os221s 20 Q. So she’s with ABC News?
32217 21 A. I believe that's right, yes.
osztg 22 Q. And --
032219 23 A. I mean, I--I can't remember. The network
o222 24 wasn't significant to me, but she’s with the Nightline
o3222 25 program. I knew that was a major program. I don't
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know -- I can't recall sitting here today whether
Nightline, is that an ABC program or NBC or -- or some
other network.
Q. If you look at the exhibit, the e-mail in the
second -- the bottom half of the first page, it has her
e-mail address. Does that -- @abc.com?
A. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Thank you.
Q. So ABC. So in this e-mail on January 4th of
2015, you told Miss Jesko of CBS News [sic] that --
MS. McCAWLEY: ABC. I'm sorry. You said
CBS.
MR. SIMPSON: I'm sorry.
THE WITNESS: There you go.
MS. McCAWLEY: Now, we are really confused.
MR. SIMPSON: I'm sorry. Let me start again,
and thank you.
MS. McCAWLEY: Sure.
BY MR. SIMPSON:
Q. Inthis e-mail on January 4th, 2015, you told
Miss Jesko of ABC News, quote: I represent, along with
Brad Edwards in Florida, the young woman who was
sexually abused by Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz,
period, close quote. Have I quoted that correctly?
A. You have.
Q. So is it fair to say that in this e-mail, you
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have told ABC News that Mr. -- Professor Dershowitz, in
fact, had abused Virginia Roberts?
A. No. I think it says that I'm the lawyer who
is representing someone who has -- has made those
allegations.
Q. That's how you read this e-mail?
A. Yes.
Q. In the e-mail you identified Miss Roberts as:
“The young woman who was sexually abused by
Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz."
That doesn’t read to you as a statement that
she was abused?
A. Incontext, I think it was understood that I
was the attorney representing her with that claim.
MR. DERSHOWITZ: Move on.
BY MR. SIMPSON:
Q. Who --
THE WITNESS: I'm sorry. What was that?
Who -- who was that?
MR. SIMPSON: Who is speaking?
THE WITNESS: I heard somebody say "move on"
or something. Could somebody identify
themselves, please? Did I --
MR. SIMPSON: In any event, I -- I will move
on.
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