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From:
Richard Kahn
Sent:
Thursday, May 25, 2
To:
jeffrey E.
Subject:
Larry G550 flight school with 8430 and GIV for Dave & Bill
i was able to negotiate an additional 2,000 =iscount on larry from 59,400 to 57,400 and an additional
1,900 discount for both dave and bill hammond from 64,500 to =2,600 for a total discount of 5,800 or 3.1% total cost
182,600 provided we prepay for all
unfortunately information =riginally presented by Larry on 4/20/2017 was not accurate (see bottom =f attached email
chain) as larry inferred that Syn Vision 4,700 and =PDLC 7,300 were included in Flight Safety pricing larry is eager to get
dave and bill started on training and =ecuring slots i am unaware if Simuflight includes =hese two additional costs and
note that Simuflight is 40k for G550 =nitial yet recurrent for GIV is not clear (i have not spoken with =endor as larry is
very firm on using flight safety) larry mentions that flight safety is more rigourous and fails =eople however when i spoke
with gregg he said failing is rare and it =ould be hard to fail dave knowing he works on Larry's =eam please advise if ok to
proceed and with or =ithout extras as per pricing below or shall i call simulflight to =btain an accurate picture of cost
differential thank=you
Larry V
G550=/ B430 $57,400 =/span>
CPDLC.
$ =nbsp;7,300
Syn Vision. $ =nbsp;4,700
Total LV
$69,400
Dave Rodgers
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. =nbsp; $. 7,300
Syn Vision. =nbsp;$. 4,700
Total =nbsp;
$74,600
Bill Hammond
6550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. =nbsp;
$. 7,300
Syn Vision. =nbsp;$. 4,700
Total. =nbsp;
=74,600
Total without CPDLC and Syn Vision =/span>182,600 Total with CPDLC =nd Syn Vision =218,600
Richard =ahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington =venue 4th Floor
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Begin forwarded message:
From: =/b>Lar
Subject: =/b>Re: G550
Date: =/b>May 25, 2017 at 11:13:49 AM =DT
To: =/b>Richard Kahn
Rich
Jeffrey asked me =he difference between FSI FlightSaftey and CAE Simuflite training, =ince its a $20k difference
between schools.
FSI is = more Regimented and Harder to pass a pilot with lower than average =kills, FSI would not offer a Type
Rating class to Nadia due to her =xperience level. I've seen 3 pilots in my classes held =ack for more training, I've
trained the past 10 years at FSI,. Dave =ttends CAE,. It's time for all of our pilots to be test properly. It's =he difference
between Harvard and a Community collage.
Here is what i come up =ith total training, pls advise if approved?
Definitions:
CPDLC =3D Controller-Pilot Data Link Communication.
Syn Vision = Synthetic Vision.
HUD = =eads Up Display, included in G550 initial training.
EVS = Enhanced Vision System, Included in G550 initial =raining.
Larry =
G550 / B430 $57,400
CPDLC. =nbsp;
$ 7,300
Syn =ision. $ 4,700
Total LV =nbsp;
$69,400
Dave Rodgers
G550 = GIV. $62,600
CPDLC.
=nbsp;$. 7,300
Syn Vision. $. =,700
Total
=nbsp;$74,600
Bill Hammond
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G550 / GIV. =nbsp;$62,600
CPDLC.
S. =nbsp;7,300
Syn Vision. S. =nbsp;4,700
Total.
=74,600
Total training with =lightSaftey
$218,600
Thank you,
Larry
Sent from my iPad
On May 25, 2017, at =0:31 AM, Richard Kahn
wrote:
i did not see your response =r may have missed it..
can you please be specific =n additional training needed along with cost so i can present to jee =otal cost
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York =Y 10022
On May 25, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Larry Visoski
rote:
Hi =ich,.
I thought I copied you on my response =o Greg in reference to enhanced training„
Below =s Greg's response and reduce pricing for
CODLC„
HUD and EVS included in =nitial„
See below email Trail
Thx
Larry
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Sent from my =Phone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Richard Kah
Date: May 25, 2017 at 10:15:32 AM EDT
To: Larry Visoski
Subject: =b class="">Re: G550
Yes but you never responded =r communicated if any ancillary courses are needed.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York. NY 10022
On May 25, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Larry Visoski
wrote:
Hi Rich,.
I'd like to get closure on G550 training and pick class =ates.
Are you satisfied with Greg's counter =ffer?
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
Begin =orwarded message:
From: =Williford, Greg"
Date: May 23, 2017 at 3:47:25 PM EDT
To: Larry Visoski
Cc: =ichard Kahn
<mailto:richardkahn12@gmail.com», "McCann, Suzanne"
Subject: RE: G550
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Hi Larry and Rich,
Here are your special rates for the =550 Ancillary courses, if needed:
&nb=p; EVS - $0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
&nb=p; HUD - $0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
&nb=p; Enhanced Navigation (CPDLC, WAAS, ADS-C) - $7,300 =ach
=ormally $9,500 under One Time or Two Event
&nb=p; Gulfstream Synthetic Vision - $4,700 =ach
&nbs=;
=nbsp;
&n=sp;
Normally $7,500 under One Time =r Two Event
&nb=p; Gulfstream XM Aviation - =445
&nbs=;
=nbsp;
&n=sp;
&nbs=;
=nbsp; Normally $555 under One Time or Two Event
Please advise on which of the above =ou'll need based upon your particular
serial number and also =hich account you'd like the training to be on.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
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From: Larry Visoski
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Williford, Greg
Cc: =ichard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
Subject: =e: G550
Ok pls include Special pricing for EVS/HUD and CODLC =raining for Mr Kahn to
approve
Thx
Larry
Sent from =y iPhone
On May =3, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Williford, Greg
rote:
Hi Larry,
Full Service covers a few of the =E2 nice to know" enrichments like cold
weather ops, TAWS, =FIT, etc. and Full Service also gives discounts for many of the =ncillary courses. However, the Two
Event program is not Full =ervice and covers two specific events per pilot. That said, with =he commitment you and Rich
are making to FlightSafety for all three =ilots, we may be able to provide the Full Service rates for the =ncillary courses
like Enhanced Nav and Synthetic Vision, etc. =/span>
Attached are fact sheets on Enhanced ray, Synthetic Vision, XM Aviation
Weather and CPDLC eLearning. =et me know if you wish to take any of these or other ancillary courses =nd I can include
your special prices in the Agreement.
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I'm available by phone
if you'd like to discus.
All the best,
Greg
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From: Larry Visoski [maiIto:I
Sent: Tuesday, May =3, 201
:
To: Williford, Greg
Cc: Richard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
Subject: Re: G550
Thx =reg„
Yes we have HUD and EVS„
Also r=eed advanced Navigation course for CPDLC as well„ is this done on Line =r
in Classroom format?
On May 23, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Williford, Greg
wrote:
Hi Mr. Richard,
Great to speak with you again yesterday =nd thank you for this opportunity to be of service.
I have discussed your counter proposal =ith our team and we are able to come very close to meeting
your =equests:
1.
We are able to offer you a G550 Initial =ith Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months for Larry at
$57,400 =ach
2.
We are able to offer you G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV =ecurrent within 14 months for your
other two pilots at $62,600 =ach
3.
We will prepare a contract for all three pilots for your =ignature. Upon signing, we will create
invoices for each pilot =nd ask that the three invoices be prepaid ($182,600 total) before the =irst training session for
the first pilot on the =chedule.
Our G550 Initial course =overs HUD and EVS. Please advise if the unit you have purchased =as Enhanced
Navigation, Synthetic Vision and/or XM Weather and we can =et you pricing for those courses.
Lastly, we have at =east three different accounts set up for your current airplanes and =ill need to
consolidate the training for all three pilots onto =ne. When you are ready to move forward, please advise which =ccount
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will be best for the scheduling, contract and billing and we =ill send you the Agreement for Training under that account
to cover =our special rates.
Please let me know if =ou have questions and if I can be of assistance in any way. We =ruly appreciate
your business.
All the =est,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety International
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Williford, Greg
Subject: RE: G550
Date: May 22, 2017 at 8:08:28 AM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Hi =ichard,
I was on vacation =hursday and Friday....sorry I missed your call
m I. ='m in the office today and looking
forward to speaking with =ou. Please call me whenever convenient at
r =et me know a good time to
reach out to you.
All the best,
Greg
Greg =illiford
Regional Sales =irector
FlightSafety =nternational
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From: Richard Kahn [mailtc
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 3:50 PM
To: Williford, Greg
Subject: Re: G550
i just called your office and cell
can you please call me on my cell when you have time so we =an hopefully move forward together
thank you
Richard =ahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On May 18, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Richard Kahn
ote:
good morning
happy to hear that you and larry have again been in =ouch
i am meeting with our principal today as =e wants to make a decision on this by the end of the week
can you please review your pricing and =gree to move forward as follows:
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 =ecurrent within 14 months - $57,500 each pilot
=nbsp;Gulfstream G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 =onths -
$62,000 each pilot
discount requested 1500 + 2500 + 2500 = 6,900 or =.66% of 188,400 total cost
i strongly believe we =an make this happen with above prices
please advise
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, =Y 10022
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry Visoski
Subject: Fwd: G550
Date: May 15, 2017 at 5:38:52 PM =DT
To: Rich Kahn =1
<jeevacation@gmail.com>
From =lightSaftey
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Williford, Greg"
Date: May 15, 20
To: Larry Visoski
u ect•
:
mails
Je vacation
GMT+2
Hi Larry,
Martinez, Melanie"
, "Parrish, Vincent"
Great to hear =hat the G550 deal came through. We look forward to being of =ervice for all
your training needs.
As you =now, we have several pricing options, including the Two Event/13 Month =ontract (2
sessions per pilot within 14 months). The Two Event =rogram offers additional discounts off the One Time pricing by
=repaying the two events at the start of the contract period. We =an "mix" aircraft types under the Two Event pricing
option as long as =he training and contract is all with one account.
Listed below are your prices for 2017:
TWO EVENT
=nbsp;Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within 14 months - =59,400 each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial =ith Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months - $64,500 each pilot
Please let me know if you have questions and =f we can be of service in any way.
All the =est,
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Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
FlightSafety =nternational
Original Message
From: Larry Visoski =mailt
Sent: Sunday, =ay 14, 201
To: Williford, Greg; McClendon, =oody; Parrish, Vincent; Martinez, Melanie
Subject: =550
Hello Greg„
I =ave 2 pilots that require;
G550 initial training,
And GIV Reccurent„
Can you price this for =e?
I need G550 Initial plus Bell 430 =ecurrent myself„ Can you present a full package to sign with
Flight =aftey with above Request?
Thx
Larry Visoski
Plan D, LLC G550
lege Llc GIV
Hyperion Air, LLc Bell 430
Sent =rom my iPhone
Rich
Yes =ave, Bill and I have completed Training in GIV in past 12 months,. Greg =illiford is with Flight Saftey, he
didn't realize I trained with =imuflite this past year
My plan was to send Dave Rodgers to Flight Saftey for G550 =nitial,
I was planning to send Bill =ammond and myself to simuflight,. For cost savings„
I told Jeffrey that Flight Saftey has a more thorough flight =raining program that Dave would benefit from,. Plus
not everyone passes =he course at FlightSafety much more stringent,.
If =e want to save $20,000 per person in training cost we all could attend =imuflite if you like?
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Larry
Simuflite CAE GIV recurrent =raining March 2017,. Due GIV in March 2018.
Dave =edgers
Simuflite CAE trained Aug 2016,. Is =ue for recurrent Aug 2017.,
William Hammond
Trained FlightSatfey
July 2016,. =s due for ReCurrent July 2017.,
Sent from my =Phone
On Apr 25, 2017, at =1:41 AM, Richard Kahn
wrote:
ok
larry can you please provide last GIV training dates (dave, =ill and yourself) as i believe i was told by greg
wilford of flight =afety that we may have to do separate training for GIV if GV not done =ither within 12 months or 1
month thereafter..
i =ust informed jee of this but did not have dates and need to verify =iming
Richard Kahn
HBRK =ssociates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr =4, 2017, at 6:50 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
i think it best that we wait, until closer to the itme =he plane is ready from erics i dont want
dave or =arry to have 4 months between training and flying
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Larry =isosk
wrote:
Rich
CAE Simuflite =ffered G550 initial at $40k each,.
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Here is =ontract info;
Brian Laird - =AE
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Richard Kahn =1
<mailt
wrote:
then again to 77,500
initial and recurrent
just=spoke with greg and he said you negotiated the best deal possible
list for initial and recurrent is 121,000 which he then =educed to 91,000 and
unfortunately after 2 phone calls and almost 2 hours on the =hone no such luck
can you please send me simuflight contact info as well as =hey are at 65,750 for
thanks
Richard Kahn
HBRK =ssociates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Larry Visoski
rote:
For Sure,. =efinitely worth a try;
Try this person =irst,.
Flight Saftey sales =ep;
Gulfstream Sales =raining
Woody McClendon is my =ell 430 Heli sales rep„ and close acquaintances„ nice
guy„ he =nderstands negotiations and helps me out,.
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Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Richard Kahn
wrote:
lee wants me to give negotiating a shot. Please send me =ontact info and call to
discuss game plan. Thanks.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Date: April 20, 2017 at 6:44:37 PM EDT
To: Richard Kahn
Subject: Fwd: G55. training
make = deal for three pilots. all recuurent with recurrent 430 =or larry
For
From: Larry
Date: Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: =550 training Dave May 1st
To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
All prices =uoted from Simuflight or Flight Safety is considering 3 pilots for G550
=nitial class.
Simuflite Price is $40k for G550 Initial =lass,.
Following year, re-Current training is $25,750
Bell 430 item,
This was Flight Saftey quote for me, which included the Bell =30 re-current and
G550 initial, price is $59,400 which is 550 initial =nd Bell 430 recurrent,. I would need a G550 recurrent the next year,
=hich is an additional $25k.,
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Sent from my iPad
On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:44 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
it says bell 430? how much was =imuflite and what is the price for 3 people
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Larry =isoski
wrote:
Jeffrey
"Flight Saftey" in Dallas has start date May 1st G550 initial =lass. Ends May 23rd,
which includes Check Ride, Advance Navigation =ourse w/CPDLC, and Synthetic Vision class that includes Sim time using
=UD "Heads Up Display" and EVS "Enhanced Vision System" ops in the =imulator.
Single time event is $62,100 for =nitial.
Dual event which covers 24 month is $77,500
After Initial training, the following year Recurrent G550 =raining is $25,700
Option
1-Do=you want Dave to do Single event Initial for $62,100
Or
2- the two year program which is G550 Initial and includes =ext years Recurrent
training total $77,500
Option 1 or 2 ?
Thx
Larry
Hi Larry,
Congrats on the =ending purchase on the G550 and thanks for your email.
We'd like to amend the proposal we sent to you on February =rd with the
following special Two Event prices for 2017:
TWO EVENT AGREEMENT
Gulfstream G550 Initial with G550 Recurrent for =he same pilot within 13
months - $77,500 each pilot
=nbsp;Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent for the same pilot =ithin
13 months - $59,400 each pilot
As =iscussed, we don't offer G-V with G550 differences and only offer G550
=raining in our 6550 sims due to safety concerns based on discussions =ith GAC, our customer advisory boards and
customers. The prices =bove will cover the "type specific" G550 and Bell 430 training.
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Please let me and/or Woody know if you have =ny questions. We look forward
to being of service.
All the best,
Greg
Sent from my iPad
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