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10 fd. 12 [3 14 15 16 i) 18 wife) 20 21 22 23 24 25 67 H3VOGIU1 relate to plaintiff and said that those stories ar vidence of her damaged reputation. When you look at the stories that actually were pulled off the internet, a substantial number of them relate to the Cassell-Edwards-Dershowitz litigation; what happened in the litigation, statements made by the parties in the litigation, statements made about Virginia Giuffre relevant to that litigation. If her reputation is damaged by some other litigation that has nothing to do with Ms. Maxwell, Ms. Maxwell can't be responsible for that reputational damage. THE COURT: What's your explanation of the damage caused to Giuffre by the Dershowitz case? MS. MENNINGER: I'm sorry? 7 THE COURT: I understand the testimony part. That's a different kind of thing. But the case itself, how does that damage her reputation? MS. MENNINGER: It's the press attendant to that case, your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. So the press attendant. MS. MENNINGER: There was a lot of press attendant to that case which was, frankly, negative to the plaintiff that had nothing do with Ms. Maxwell's denial. And their experts have relied on that press and claimed that that press somehow supports their claim for damages against Ms. Maxwell, even though she's not mentioned in the particular stories. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011370