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10 fd. 12 [3 14 15 16 i) 18 wife) 20 21 22 23 24 25 110 H3vlgiu2 MS. McCAWLEY: Do you want me to address that, your Honor? I mean, it's our evidence that we're trying to get in. Or do you want me to wait? THE COURT: Well, you don't know. The defense doesn't know. MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no way. There is no way to present these documents, your Honor. = THE COURT: Yes. Okay. All right. Because there's no DOJ witness listed. MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no record custodian at all for these documents. Detective Recarey in his deposition -- and you have this, the relevant answers to these questions -- acknowledged that they don't have any of this evidence. And so that's going to be, you know -- you have seen, in multiple filings from the plaintiffs, they attach excerpted documents containing what they say are phone messages secured from the trash pulls. So that would be an example of evidence for which there is no record custodian. Frankly, I don't know who the source of any of that information is. This is yet another piece of information that has appeared, I'm presuming through Mr. Edwards getting it somehow, you know, in relation to some other case and then it appears in discovery in this case. And what it looks like is, you know, a number of, you know, what they say are photocopies of message pads from Epstein's trash. But there is no person who will say, this particular piece of SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011413