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From:
Deepak Chopra <nonlocal101@chopra.com >
Sent:
Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:51 PM
To:
Jeffrey E.
Subject:
Re: SAVANTS
Thank you !
Yes - see you soon !
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Deepak Chopra MD
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On Sep 16, 2017, at 2:55 AM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> > wrote:
ill fund the assistnat . no help neeeded. looking forward to seeein gyou
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On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:44 AM, Deepak Chopra <nonlocal101@chopra.com
<mailto:nonlocal101@chopra.com» wrote:
Let's do it
I can get some funding
Deepak Chopra MD
2013 Costa Del Mar Road
Carlsbad, CA 920O9
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<http://home-everyone-welcome.com/>
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On Sep 16, 2017, at 3:45 AM, Ramachandran, Vilayanur <vramachandran@ucsd.edu
<mailto:vramachandran@ucsd.edu» wrote:
We would need a full time assistant housed in one of our offices ( or divided between us ) to
coordinate all this
But for starters Do you Darold ( if i may ) know of any mathematical savants who could come to
our facility to be tested . The advantage is that the Parameters are clearly defined
Two savants would be good for
starters I may invite an eminent professional number theorist to join us ( UCSD is a hot-bed for number theory and pure
math - with three Fields medallists )
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Cheers Rama 858.3373475 <tel:(858)%20337-3475>
From: Darold Trefferet (daroldt@charter.net <mailto:daroldt@charter.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Ramachandran, Vilayanur
Cc: Deepak Chopra
Subject: RE: SAVANTS
VS,
Likewise I feel that I know you through your remarkable work. We toil in the same vineyard of
mysterious and (as yet) unexplained exceptional brain performance. I would welcome collaboration.
So much to explore. How do savants "know things they never learned", like the periodic table,
prime numbers, solar system or whole globe geography? (my explanation is genetic memory--the genetic transmission
of knowledge (nature v. nurture). I have a register of about 300 savants and about the time I think I have heard it all
comes another with new unheard of skill or ability, type 1 or 2 as you refer to those skills. I met with GOMA, a
celebrated Japanese musician who, after a head injury, is now an accomplished artist as well. An acquired savant with
an entirely different skill post injury. Some of these savants have been part of documentaries. The "work-up" was
usually imaging studies looking for 'the spot' of savant syndrome. The imaging produces very pretty pictures for TV,
but very little illumination of what has happened. Imaging, impressive as it is, just is not sensitive enough (yet), even DTI
or EU, to pinpoint the underlying defects at the synapse level of savant syndrome, creativity and even autism. More
productive results will come from carefully designed, intricate, neuropsychological testing. But there is always the rush
to imaging.
I have been so consumed with the acquired savant, and hyperlexia (children who read early
often mis-diagnosed as being on the spectrum) and paranormal phenomenon in about 1% of savants, my congenital
savant registry has not been kept current. I intend to correct that. We have organized an acquired savant registry from
unsolicited emails or other sources and will soon publish those preliminary results. We have designed a comprehensive
survey instrument to now collect uniform data from those unsolicited, non uniform e mails and will be sending that out
soon to the savants and/or families. We have done the same now for 160 hyperlexia patients/families and will be
analzying that data. My exploration of para-normal subjects continues. I intend to renew some effort with the savant
registry and that may be where our interests most intersect.
So there may be ways to collaborate. One person I was collaborating with, Oliver Sacks,
regrettably passed away. We were exchanging some cases. I have the largest world collection of savant books, theses,
professional articles, news articles, videotapes and correspondence on savant syndrome, which has gradually morphed
from savant syndrome only to othere manifestations of the exceptional brain. It is a gold mine of data. The hospital has
been kind enough to provide a building and some staff for the Treffert Center which we intend to put to full use and
explore other sources of support and expansion.
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So, let me know your thoughts on this somewhat rambling response to your welcome note.
Please feel free to share this with Deepak because of his interest in these same 'mysteries'. Let's see if there are ways to
work together in this extraordinary vinyard.
Darold A. Treffert, M.D.
www.treffertcenter.com <http://www.treffertcenter.com>
www.savantsyndrome.com <http://www.savantsyndrome.com>
From: Ramachandran, Vilayanur (mailto:vramachandran@ucsd.edu
<mailto:vramachandran@ucsd.edu> )
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:54 PM
To: Darold Trefferet
Subject: SAVANTS
Dear DR Trefferet
WE haven't been introduced formally but i feel i know you through your book, your SCi Am
article and your recent lecture transmitted to CARTA UCSD where I work .
I have had a long-standing interest in Savants - especially those with math skills ( eg prime
numbers ► and visuospatial and our center , in fact , focuses on 'solving " neurological mysteries eg synesthesia ,
phantom pain, xenomelia ( apotemnophilia ) Capgrsas etc
Bernie Rimland had indicated he would like to collaborate but , alas , passed away.
Would you be so kind as to refer savants with unusual skills in any domain but esp math , music
and art to our facility ? Needless to say we would invite your participation ( assuming you have the time )and
coauthorship
Coincidentally my good friend and colleague dr Deepak Chopra was visiting our lab a few
weeks ago and this matter came up
There are two classes of phenomena . First , skills that are clearly definable such as prime
numbers , drawing , memory size estimation etc which can be replicated under carefully controlled settings ; two-'
super human ' or even supernatural abilities like telepathy, clairvoyance etc which have long resisted replication
my focus will on class 1 - a more detailed understanding of whats going on. Before jumping to
imaging there are basic simple tests one can do. But I'm also open to testing the latter
Theres also a vast grey zone between these two classes.
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We hope e can interest you in this venture
VS Ramachandran PhD MD FRCP ( tond ) DSc
professor and director
Center for brain and cognition UCSD
La Jolla CA 92093 -0109
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