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Edwards adv. Epstein Telephone interview with Virginia Roberts Page 3 of 23 JS: JS: JS: JS: When you say that the room was hidden, Virginia, how was the room concealed? It wasn’t like a door that you would normally go into, like some kind of special opening, you open that and then a little door, so it looks like it’s a little closet so-to-speak, but when you walk in there, it’s obviously a lot bigger than just a closet. It wasn’t too big, but it was bigger, you know. It wasn’t a gigantic room, it was just like a small room, which you know, it probably could fit some shoes in there, it had racks of shoes, boxes, some sweatshirts neatly folded, and the ceiling to the floor was covered in pornographic pictures of the girls that he had met. When you say... So anyways, that was getting there, and I was introduced to Jeffrey, he was laying naked on top of the massage table, and obviously for one, I’m a 15 year old girl and seeing him on the table was weird but, also learning about anatomy and massage, I thought this would be part of it. So obviously, I thought it was part of the massage program, so I said ok, this is fine. And, he then instructed me on how to touch the body, Jeffrey’s body, how to massage him, and for the first hour, it was actually a real massage, maybe not an hour, maybe like 40 minutes or something, but of something like that _and that’s when he turned over on the other side and to expose himself fully. So then Ghislaine told me that she wanted me to undress and began to take off my shirt and skirt, my white uniform from Mar-A-Lago, she also took off her shirt and got undressed, and so I was there with just my undies on, and she was completely bare, and made some kind of little flake about the underwear that I was wearing because it wasn’t my normal sexy girl underwear and just like, I don’t know, had red hearts on it or something like that; just your normal, you know, real cute underwear. Anyways, so during all of this I’m kind of like what’s going on, how do I act, what do I say, I was so afraid of, not afraid or fearful for my life but _unsure of how all this started and wanting to obtain a profession_ I was so aftaid thinking about upsetting and disappointing them, I don’t know, it’s a weird situation by far and I was expected to Lick his nipples, instructed on how to do so by J.E_ and give him oral sex while he wanted to fondle me, and then at the end, I was told by Ghislaine to get on top and straddle Jeffrey sexually, and when we were done, we went and had a shower in the room and Jeffrey told me to wash him up and down, you know with a bar of soap and make sure he was all cleaned up. And then he took me downstairs and took me to two of the guards and told John to bring me home. John was the butler at the time. Let me interrupt you for just a moment there if I could, Virginia. You mentioned as you were recounting those details that you were 15 years old at the time. What is your date of birth? August 9", 1983 And can you tell us please, as best you’re able to estimate it, what the date was when this first encounter occurred? HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012109