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From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:55 AM To: Jeffrey Epstein Subject: Re: Thanks! (& proposal, Google, etc.) By the wayM(who is now living in Hong Kong as well) and I are having a lot of fun thinking through this proposal you've asked for -- it's quite refreshing to "think big" ;-) On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Ben Goertzel •r • wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for taking the time from your busy morning to chat w/ me... > I can talk again at 9AM or LOAM your time basically any day you > choose... 7PM your time also works... just let me know... > You've mentioned the "deception" theme to me a number of times before; > but this time we're at a stage with OpenCog development where we could > actually take that as a development goal (simulating human deceptive > behavior on the broad level...) > I will put together a proposal such as you've requested: roughly $25M > to be used over 3 years, resulting in breakthrough AG goals by the > end. The outline is clear in my head (core AGI work + NLP + > sensors/actuators + distributed computing infrastructure), but I want > to think it through a little (specifically regarding what incremental > milestones to suggest), so I'll aim to get you something by Monday, if > that's all right... > You mentioned Google: I've visited Ray Kurzweil and his team there in > Mountain View once, and will visit them again on Jan. 7 2014. If you > happen to be in California then, you could crash the meeting; that > would be pretty interesting for all concerned ;-) .... My former > student & employee Dr. Moshe Looks is working for Ray there, which has > given me an inside view of what they're doing. It's really not AGI at > this point; they're aimed at helping Google exploit theire Knowledge > Graph better. Ray's aim is to impress Larry Page enough, by doing > useful Knowledge Graph stuff for Google, that Larry will eventually > fund Ray's brain-building work.... > I understand your frustration with my slow progress over the years --- > and I don't think the slowness is because I'm inefficient; I think > it's mostly because this is a big task with many parts to build and > fit together. (Of course, I've also been slowed down a bit by the > fact that I'm always spending part of my time doing non-AGI stuff to > generate income....) At the modest but steady pace I've been taking, > I *will* get there to the end goal of advanced AGI, but obviously not > as fast as we'd like.. EFTA_R1_01408664 EFTA02387343 > But, bear in mind that, even without a lot more $$, we'll have 10 > students/postdocs on OpenCog here next year; so I'm hopeful we can > make it a breakthrough year... But of course, it would be **great" > to be able to move significantly faster; and significantly more $$ > would indeed enable that.... I hope we can find a way to really > accelerate the work! ... > Thanks ;) > ben > -- > Ben Goertzel PhD > "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. > James T. Kirk Ben Goertzel, PhD "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. James T. Kirk <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>date-last-viewed</key> creal>0.0</real> <key>date-received</key> <real>1385535276</real> <key>flags</key> <integer>8590195713</integer> <key>gmail-label-ids</key> <array> <integer>5</integer> <integer>18</integer> </array> <key>original-mailbox</key> <string>imap:Meevacation@imap.gmail.com/%58Gmail%5D/All%20Mail</string> <key>remote-id</key> <string>365937</string> </dict> </plist> 2 EFTA_R1_01408665 EFTA02387344