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From:
Deepak Chopra
Sent:
Sunday, July 23, 2017 11:42 PM
To:
William Bushell; Ryan Castle
Cc:
Darold Trefferet; Carolyn Rangel; Rudy mail; Ramachandran, Vilayanur; Poonacha
Body/Mind/Me Machaiah; Paul Mills; Dr Diane Hennacy Powell; Murali Doraiswamy,
M.D.
Subject:
Re: SAVANTS
Thanks!
2013 Costa Del Mar Road
Carlsbad, CA 92009
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From: William Bushell
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:55:58 PM
To: Ryan Castle
Cc: Deepak Chopra; Darold Trefferet; Carolyn Rangel; Rudy mail; Rama=handran, Vilayanur; Poonacha Body/Mind/Me
Machaiah; Paul Mills; Dr Diane H=nnacy Powell; Murali Doraiswamy, M.D.
Subject: Re: SAVANTS
I'll be ready to sha=e with you the fruits of my —15 years of research in this area Ryan, start=ng tomorrow!
All Best,
Bill
William C Bushell, PhD
Director of Research and Academic Liaison,=ISHAR (isharonline.org <http://isharonline.org/> <http://isharonlin=.org/
<http://isharonline.org/») Biophysical Anth=opology, MIT Department of Religion, Columbia University Senior Fellow,
Harvard University, 1993.94
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Ryan Castle
wrote:
Brilliant! I'm very excited about the prospect of this co=laboration, and I think the synergy behind this team
could be very powerfu=.
This is excellent timing, we're in the midst of designing=a new form of large-scale data analysis through custom
rubrics and Al. 1'1= start doing preliminary searches to compile and archive all of the surfac= level studies I can find on
the topic, but at some point I will need to talk to someone about more specifi= search terms and technical terms so that
I can find and collate all the b=st data.
On Jul 23, 2017 09:15, "Deepak Chopra"=
wrote:
Thanks Bill and Ryan and everyone ! Let's start with archiving all the=current data on this and then come
up with a protocol for a formal study t=at can be submitted for IRB .
All love
Deepak Chopra MD
2013 Costa Del Mar Road
Carlsbad, CA 92009
=hopra Foundation chttp://www.choprafoundat=on.org/>
Jiyo <http://www.jiyo.com/>
Chopra Cen=er for Wellbeing <http://www.chopra.com/>
chttps://www.discoveringyo=rcosmicself.com/>
<https://www.discoveringyourcosmicself.com/>
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On Jul 23 2017 at 12:05 PM, William Bushell
> wro=e:
Dear all, and especially in this brief note,=to Drs Treffert and Ramachandran:
How exciting this project sounds already! Ye=, as Deepak mentioned, I am the Director of
Research and Academic Liaison =or ISHAR (isharonline=org <http://isharonline.org> ), and thanks to Deepak we recently
began to get help from Google for ISHAR's online site. I am also affiliate= with MIT as a biophysical and psychological
anthropologist. I developed a=d continue to work on a scientific research model of how advanced meditato=s (Tibetan
and Indian in particular) enter into induced savant-like states to achieve heightened sensory-percep=ual access in order
to actually be able to observe small scale phenomena a=ong other important features of the sensory environment (there
is no parap=ychological dimension to this model). I first presented this model at a conference I had with the Dalai Lama,
an= K Anders Ericsson -- another leader in the field of "expert and exce=tional performance," a field that as you know he
pioneered with Nobel=st Herbert A Simon, along with yourselves, Dr Treffert and Ramachandran. (Ericsson's and my
work from this neuroscien=e conference were published in my volume by the New York Academy of Scienc=s, and was
also presented in 2011 at the Towards of Science of Consciousne=s conference in Stockholm, and more recently at a
physics and consciousness conference at UC Berkeley).</=iv>
One other matter to only briefly mention her= for now, is that I also had the honor to be
associated with a book projec= that both of you were also associated with, Struck By Genius, on the acqu=red
mathematical savant, Jason Padgett. I did work on that book with my close friend and frequent collaborator, Ma=reen
Seaberg, along with Jason, another friend, who is one of several sava=ts I have worked with.
The project described here sounds wonderful!= fascinating and compelling, and speaking on
behalf of my ISHAR partner, E=ecutive Director Ryan Castle and my self, we will do everything possible t= aid, facilitate,
and enhance the project in every way we can in line with your direction.
Sincerely,
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Bill
William C Bushell, PhD
Director of Research and Academic Liaison,=ISHAR (isharonline.org <http://isharonline.org/>
<http://isharonlirmorg/ <http://isharonline.org/»)
Biophysical =Anthropology, MIT
Department of Religion, Columbia University
Senior Fell=w, Harvard University, 1993-94
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Deepak Chopra <=pan dir="ltru> <nonlocal101=chopra.com
<mailto:nonlocal101@chopra.com» wrote:
Dear Dr Trefferet
I have admired your work for several years . I am particularly fascinate= with the
following statements you make =nbsp;"How do savants "know things they never learned", like the periodic t=ble, prime
numbers, solar system or whole globe geography? (my expla=ation is genetic memory--the genetic transmission of
knowledge (nature v. =urture). I have a register of about 300 savants and about the time I think I have heard it all comes
another with new unhe=rd of skill or ability, type 1 or 2 as you refer to those skills. &nb=p; I met with GOMA, a
celebrated Japanese musician who, after a head injur=, is now an accomplished artist as well. An acquired savant with
an entirely different skill post injury" =
While "genetic memory " is a good=hypothesis we must remember that "genes "
themselves are human c=nstructs -names we have give to modes of knowing & experience in consciousness, which
remains a mystery. Savants who have " know th=ngs they never learned" may offer a window to non local reality. =
I have interest from Amazon films on a docu=entary on consciousness and the universe
and will seek your's and Dr Ramac=andran's & Diana Powell's participation. Meanwhile meet Ryan and Bill who are in
charge of ISHARonline.com <http://ISHARo=line.com>
We would love to document and archive your =ork for future generations and promote
it on social media to increase awar=ness & expand the conversation so we can all learn more. With great respect &
admiration of your work
deepak
2013 Costa Del Mar Road
Carlsbad, CA 92009
Chopra Foundation <http://www.choprafoundation.org>
<http://www.c=oprafoundation.org>
Jiyo <http://www.jiyo.com> <http://jiyo.com> <http://jiyo.com>
Chopra Center for Wellbeing <http://www.chopra.com> <http://chopra.co=>
chttp://www.jiyo.com>
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From: Darold Trefferet
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:34:33 PM
To: 'Ramachandran, Vilayanur'
Cc: Deepak Chopra
Subject: RE: SAVANTS
VS,
Likewise I feel that I know you through your=remarkable work. We toil in the same
vineyard of mysterious and (as =et) unexplained exceptional brain performance. I would welcome collaboration.
So much to explore. How do savan=s "know things they never learned", like the
periodic table, pri=e numbers, solar system or whole globe geography? (my explanation is genetic memory--the genetic
transmission of knowledge (natu=e v. nurture). I have a register of about 300 savants and about the =ime I think I have
heard it all comes another with new unheard of skill or=ability, type 1 or 2 as you refer to those skills. I met with
GOMA, a celebrated Japanese musician =ho, after a head injury, is now an accomplished artist as well. = An acquired
savant with an entirely different skill post injury. &nb=p; Some of these savants have been part of documentaries. =
The "work-up" was usually imaging studies looking for 'the spot'=of savant syndrome. The imaging produces very
pret=y pictures for TV, but very little illumination of what has happened. = Imaging, impressive as it is, just is not
sensitive enough (yet), even DTI or DTT, to pinpoint the underlying defects at the synapse I=vel of savant syndrome,
creativity and even autism. More productive =esults will come from carefully designed, intricate, neuropsychological
to=ting. But there is always the rush to imaging.<=p>
I have been so consumed with the acquired sa=ant, and hyperlexia (children who read
early often mis-diagnosed as being =n the spectrum) and paranormal phenomenon in about 1% of savants, my
congenital savant registry has not been kept cu=rent. I intend to correct that. We have organized an acquired =avant
registry from unsolicited emails or other sources and will soon publ=sh those preliminary results. We have designed a
comprehensive survey instrument to now collect uniform data from those u=solicited, non uniform e mails and will be
sending that out soon to the sa=ants and/or families. We have done the same now for 160 hyperl=xia patients/families
and will be analzying that data. My exploration of para-normal subjects continues. I=intend to renew some effort with
the savant registry and that may be where=our interests most intersect.
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So there may be ways to collaborate. O=e person I was collaborating with, Oliver Sacks,
regrettably passed away.&=bsp; We were exchanging some cases. I have the largest world collection of savant books,
theses, professional articles, n=ws articles, videotapes and correspondence on savant syndrome, which has g=adually
morphed from savant syndrome only to othere manifestations of the =xceptional brain. It is a gold mine of data. The
hospital has been kind enough to provide a buildin= and some staff for the Treffert Center which we intend to put to full
use=and explore other sources of support and expansion.</=>
So, let me know your thoughts on this somewh=t rambling response to your welcome
note. Please feel free to share =his with Deepak because of his interest in these same 'mysteries'. Let's see if there are
ways to work toget=er in this extraordinary vinyard.
Darold A. Treffert, M.D.
www.treffertcenter.com <http://www.treffertcenter.com>
www.savantsyndrome.com <http://www.savantsyndrome.com>
<=>
: Ramachandran, Vilayanur [maiIto:
<manta
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:54 PM
To: Darold Trefferet
Subject: SAVANTS
Dear DR Trefferet
WE haven't been introduced formally but i feel i=know you through your book, your SCi
Am article and your recent lecture tr=nsmitted to CARTA UCSD where I work .
I have had a long-standing interest in S=vants - especially those with math skills ( eg
prime numbers ) and v=suospatial and our center, in fact, focuses on 'solving " neurological mysteries eg synesthesia ,
phantom pain=, xenomelia ( apotemnophilia ) Capgrsas etc
Bernie Rimland had indicated he would like to co=laborate but , alas , passed away.
Would you be so kind as to refer savants with un=sual skills in any domain but esp math
, music and art to our facil=ty ? Needless to say we would invite your participation ( assuming you have the time )and
coauthorship <=p>
Coincidentally my good friend and collea=ue dr Deepak Chopra was visiting our lab a
few weeks ago and this ma=ter came up
There are two classes of phenomena . First , ski=ls that are clearly definable such as
prime numbers , drawing, memo=y size estimation etc which can be replicated under carefully controlled settings ;
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two- 'superhuman' or even supernatural abilities like telepathy, clairvoyance etc which h=ve long resisted
replication
my focus will on class 1- a more detailed=understanding of whats going on. Before
jumping to imaging there are=basic simple tests one can do. But I'm also open to testing the latter
Theres also a vast grey zone between these two =lasses.
We hope e can interest you in this ventures/=>
VS Ramachandran PhD MD FRCP ( Lond ) =DSc
professor and director
Center for brain and cognition UCSD a>
La Jolla CA 92093 -0109
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