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From: John Brockman <brockmannedae.orq>
Date: December 12, 2009 12:01:46 PM EST (CA)
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Subject: Re: Edge Question 2010
Schank is back!
This is great. One minor tweak which I'll send later.
Thanks.
JB
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On Dec 12, 2009, at 11:08 AM, roger schank
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roger schank
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:15 PM, John Brockman wrote:
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THE EDGE ANNUAL QUESTION - 2010
This year's Edge Q is the one big question that everybody
is asking today:
HOW IS THE INTERNET CHANGING THE WAY
YOU THINK?
Responses to date: Daniel Everett, Marc D. Hauser,
Nicholas Can, David Gelemter, Rodney Brooks, Paul
Bloom, Howard Gardner, Daniel C. Dennett, Mihaly
Csikszentmihalyi
Click here to track the responses (or see excerpts below):
http://www.edge.org/g2010/q10 index. html
user id: edge
password: q2010
(password protected until publication)
Contributions are due on or before Sunday, January 3rd.
The publication date (tentative) is Monday, January I I th
Please do not circulate.
Hope to hear from you.
Best,
JB
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John Brockman
President
Edge Foundation, Inc.
Visit the EDGE Website at: http://www.edge.org
EXCERPTS FROM RESPONSES...
DANIEL L. EVERETT
Chair of Languages, Literatures, & Cultures, Professor of
Linguistics and Anthropology, Illinois State University;
Author, Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes
THINKING AND LIVING WITH THE INTERNET'S
HELP
I cannot use the Internet without thinking about the
primitive research conditions I labored under during the
late 1970s and early 1980s in the Brazilian Amazon,
when I spent months at a time in complete isolation with
the Piraha people. My only connection with the wider
world was a large and clunky Philips short-wave radio I
bought in Sao Paulo. In the darkness of many Amazonian
nights, I turned the volume low and listened, when all the
Pirahas and my family were asleep, to music shows like
'Rock Salad', to individual artists such as Joan Baez and
Bob Dylan, and to news events like the Soviet invasion of
Afghanistan and the election of Ronald Reagan. As much
as I enjoyed my radio, though, I wanted to do more than
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just listen passively. I wanted to talk! I would lie awake
after discovering some difficult grammatical or cultural
fact and feel lost at times. I could barely wait to ask
people questions about the data I was collecting in the
village and my ideas about them. I couldn't, though. Too
isolated. So I put thoughts of collaboration and
consultation out of my head. Now this wasn't a
completely horrible outcome. Isolation taught me to think
independently. But there were times when I would have
liked to have had a helping hand. ...
MARC D. HAUSER
Psychologist and Biologist, Harvard University: Author,
Moral Minds
CONNECTING THROUGH CONTACT, NOT
ELECTRICITY
Let me answer this question by recounting a personal
story that took place 25 years ago in Kenya.
I was in Amboseli, National Park, Kenya to complete my
PhD thesis on the development of vervet monkey
behavior. I had never travelled to Africa. Kenya was my
first exposure to the continent. I gradually learned
Kiswahili, the local language. I learned it while playing on
the local soccer team. I also learned another custom, one
that started out as a shock to my male-ness, but soon
became a lovely manner of interaction: holding hands
while talking to good male friends. When I returned to
the United States, and reached out to hold the hand a
good buddy, I received a dirty look, followed by some
lovely explicatives. I tried to explain that it was a way of
connecting, and was not what he thought. Physical
contact is good for us. I tucked this story away for years.
It was resuscitated in Australia. ...
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NICHOLAS CARR
Author, Does IT Matter?; The Big Switch
DEPTHS AND SHALLOWS
As the school year began last September, Cushing
Academy, an elite Massachusetts prep school that's been
around since Civil War days, announced that it was
emptying its library of books. In place of the thousands of
volumes that had once crowded the building's shelves, the
school was installing, it said, "state-of-the-art computers
with high-definition screens for research and reading" as
well as "monitors that provide students with real-time
interactive data and news feeds from around the world."
Cushing's bookless library would become, boasted
headmaster James Tracy, "a model for the 21 st-century
school." ...
DAVID GELERNTER
Computer Scientist, Yale University; Chief Scientist,
Mirror Worlds Technologies; Author, Mirror Worlds
THE VIRTUALIZATION OF THE UNIVERSE
The Internet is visualizing the universe, which changes
the way I act and think. "Visualization" (a basic
historical transition, like "industrialization") means that I
spend more & more of my time acting-within and
thinking about the mirror-reflection of some external
system or institution in the (smooth, pond-like) surface of
the Internet. But the continuum of the Cybersphere will
emerge from today's bumpy cob-Web when Visualization
reaches the point at which the Internet develops its own
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emergent properties and systems: when we stop looking
at the pixels (the many separate sites and services that
make up the Web) and look at the picture. (It's the
picture, not the pixels! Eventually top-down thinking will
replace bottom-up engineering in the software world--
which will entail roughly a 99.9% turnover in the current
population of technologists.) ....
Rodney Brooks
RODNEY BROOKS
Panasonic Professor of Robotics, MIT Computer Science
and Artificial Intelligence Lab; Author, Flesh and
Machines
IN SEARCH OF THE DIET-INTERNET
When a companion heads to the bathroom during dinner I
surreptitiously pull out my iPhone to check my email and
for incoming SMS. When I am writing computer code I
have my email inbox visible at the corner so that I can see
if new messages arrive -- even though I know that most
that do arrive will be junk that has escaped my spam
filters. When I am writing a paper, or letter, or anything
else serious I flip back and forth scanning my favorite
news sites for new gems, or during weekdays I check on
stock prices -- they might be different than they were five
minutes ago.
I recently realized why I enjoy doing a mindless but timed
Sudoku puzzle so much -- the clock stops me from
breaking off to go graze on the endless variety of
intellectual stimulations that the Web can bring to me.
Tragically Sodoku is my one refuge from information
provoked attention deficit disorder. ...
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PAUL BLOOM
Psychologist, Yale University; Author, Descartes' Baby
I AM REALIZING HOW NICE PEOPLE CAN BE
When I was a boy, I loved the science-fiction idea of a
machine that could answer any factual question. It might
be a friendly robot, or a metal box you keep in your
house, or one of the components of a starship. You just
ask "Computer: How far away is Mars?" or "Computer:
List the American presidents in order of height," and a
toneless voice would immediately respond.
I own several such machines right now, including an
iPhone that fits in my pocket, all of which access
information on the Internet. (Disappointingly, I can't
actually talk to any of them -- the science-fiction writers
were optimistic in this regard.) But the big surprise is that
much of this information is not compiled by corporations,
governments, or universities. It comes from volunteers.
Wikipedia is the best-known example, with millions of
articles created by millions of volunteer editors, but there
are also popular sites such as amazon.com and
tripadvisor.com which contain countless unpaid and
anonymous reviews. ....
HOWARD GARDNER
Psychologist, Harvard University; Author, Changing
Minds
"GO NATIVE"
The Internet has changed my life greatly, but not in a way
that I could have anticipated, nor in the way that the
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question implies. Put succinctly, just as if a newly
discovered preliterate tribe had challenged my beliefs
about human language and human culture, the Internet
has altered my views of human development and human
potential.
Several years ago, I had a chance conversation with
Jonathan Fanton, then President of the MacArthur
Foundation. He mentioned that the Foundation was
sponsoring a major study , to the tune of 50 million
dollars, of how young people are being changed by the
new digital media, such as the Internet. At the time, as
part of our Good Work research Project, I was involved
in studies of ethics and focusing particularly on the ethical
orientation of young people. And so I asked Pres. Fanton
"Are you look at the ways in which the ethics of youth
may be affected?" He told me that the Foundation had
not thought about this issue. After several conversations
and a grant application, our GoodPlay project, a social
science study of ethics in the digital media, was launched.
DANIEL C. DENNETT
Philosopher; University Professor, Co-Director, Center
for Cognitive Studies, Tufts University; Breaking the
Spell
POWER CORRUPTS
We philosophers don't agree about much, but one simple
slogan that just about everybody accepts is 'ought' implies
'can'. You aren't obliged to do something impossible (for
you). In the past this handily excused researchers from
scouring the world's libraries for obscure works that
might have anticipated their apparently novel and original
discoveries, since life is short, and the time and effort that
would have to be expended to do a thorough job of
canvassing would be beyond anybody's means. Not any
more. Everybody has all-but-free and all-but-
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instantaneous access to the world's archives on just about
every topic. A few seconds with Google Scholar can give
you a few hundred more peer-reviewed articles to check
out. But this is really more scholarly can-do than I want. I
don't want to spend my precious research time scrolling
through miles of published work, even with a well-tuned
search engine! So (like everyone else, I figure), I
compromise. I regret the loss of innocence imposed on
me by the Internet. "I could have done otherwise, but
didn't" is the constant background refrain of all the
skimpings I permit myself, all the shortcuts I take, and
thus a faint tinge of guilt hangs over them all. ...
MIHALY CSIKSZENTMIHALYI
Psychologist; Director, Quality of Life Research Center,
Claremont Graduate University; Author, Flow
I MUST CONFESS TO BEING PERPLEXED
Answering this question should be a slam-dunk, right?
After all, thinking about thinking is my racket. Yet I must
confess to being perplexed. I am not even sure we have
good evidence that the way humans think has been
changed by the advent of the printing press . . . Of course
the speed of accessing information and the extent of
information at one's fingertips has been extended
enormously, but has that actually affected the way
thinking unfolds?
If I am to rely on my personal experience, I would
probably suggest the following hypotheses:
I. I am less likely to pursue new lines of thought before
turning to the Internet to check either existing data-bases,
or asking a colleague directly (result: less sustained
thought?)
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2. Information from the Internet is often
decontextualized, but being quick it satisfies immediate
needs at the expense of deeper understanding (result:
more superficial thought?) ....
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