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Edwards adv. Epstein Telephone interview with Virginia Roberts Page 14 of 23 I’d start with his feet, go up to his calves, up his legs, buttocks, back, his neck, his head, his arms, yada yada, and then it would be time to flip over, and some of the men would want me to continue on massaging the front side of them and they would instigate me to begin having sex with them or foreplay, whatever you want to call it. JS: So routinely, these massages involved sexual activity. Is that accurate? V: That is accurate. JS: Ok. Let’s talk about the travel that you were involved in when you were on Jeffrey’s private plane. Generally speaking, who were the passengers on the plane when you traveled. V: Well, Larry was the pilot, and then there was a short, small solid guy, I don’t know his name, but he was a co-pilot, and then he changed and there was another guy brought in later on. Generally speaking, there was always Jeffrey, sometimes Ghislaine, sometimes Emmy, sometimes a whole bunch of other girls, sometimes famous people, sometimes some politicians or yeah, just about anybody could fly on his plane. There was never no any set routine who would come and who would go. It was an influx of people on Jeffrey’s airplane. JS: I want to deal with these things separately in order to respect some of the reservations that you have, so I’m going to ask you who the people were that you remember flying with Jeffrey on his plane when you were personally present without regard to whether there was any sexual activity that occurred on the plane or not. So I’m not asking you to implicate any of these famous people in improper conduct, but just tell me what the names of the people are that you remember that you consider to be famous people. V: Ok, there was Naomi Campbell, Heidi Klum, there was Bill Clinton. There was Al (?) Gore, there was a whole bunch of models, I wouldn’t really honestly be able to give their names. There was Matt Groning the producer of the simpons cartoon, Jack CCousteau’s granddaughter a lot of interior designers, architects, politicians. I am just trying to think of as many names as possible for you. Off the top of my head, that’s as good as I can get for now. JS: Ok, alright, that’s fine. And again, I am not implying by my questions, nor do I want your answers to be interpreted as your suggesting that any of those people that you have just identified were engaged in any improper activities on any particular flight, but I want to talk to you now about what went on on occasion on the airplane. Ok? V: Ok. It was a lot of the same thing that went down on the ground. A lot of times, it would be just be me and Jeffrey, or me and Jeffrey and Ghislaine, or me and Jeffrey and some other girl, sometimes Emmy, Sarah, and Nadia Bjournik. There would be sexual conduct, there would be foreplay, there was a bed in there, so we could basically reenact exactly HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_015569