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From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:55 PM To: Deepak Chopra Subject: Re: Fw: My chapter on you are you distinguishing between thoughts and ideas ? =C2 attempted solutions. , random reaches.? =A0 On =un, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Deepak Chopra wrote: Agree--it all begins with an idea What is the source of ideas -including mathematical ideas or mathematica= imagination ? Any imagination !? 2013 Costa Del Mar Road Carlsbad, CA 92009 The Chopra Foundation <http://www.choprafoundation.org/> <http://w=w.choprafoundation.org/> <http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/l/SlryZ4SaSit_SL500_SS115_=jpg> <httpWwww.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07- 20> <http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07- 20> Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wel=being chttp://ww=.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being/dp/0804140138/deepa=chcom07-20> <=span> 2013 Costa Del Mar Road EFTA_R1_01560915 EFTA02457238 Carlsbad, CA 92009 The Chopra Foundation chttp://www.choprafoundation.ore> <http://w=w.choprafoundation.org/> =img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/l/51ryZ4SaSrLSL500_SS115_=jpg"> =br> <http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07- 20> =a href="http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-20" target="_blank">Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wel=being <http://ww=.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being/dp/0804140138/deepa=chcom07-20> <=span> From: Deepak Chopra Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:01 AM To: Michael Shermer Subject: Re: My chapter on you Dear Michael, Your chapter reads well and is certainly more than fair about me, given=the general unfairness I've experienced from militant atheists and har=-boiled skeptics. Thanks for being so open-minded. My only comments have to do with making a difficult subject more access=ble to your readers. 1. I'd slow down at the passage about "redness" and spell=out that the brain is dark but we see light' the brain is silent, but =e hear' the brain contains no pictures, but we see full-blown three-dimensional images. Then open up how a neuron works, firing the same=chemical signals as any other cell with small modifications. So how =oes a brain cell, born of the same strand of DNA as a stomach o liver cell= think? It seems to me that a brain cell cannot think. 2 EFTA_R1_01560916 EFTA02457239 2. On a basic chemical level, the sugar in a sugar cube or the gl=cose in the bloodstream has no special properties; the molecules do not pa=ticipate in mental activity until they enter the brain. You might want to point out this mystery and also note that mat=rial monists must show the exact point when molecules exhibit mind-like be=avior. 3. Freeman Dyson, among other physicists, cites the mind-like behavior =f subatomic particles as they "choose" and "decide" wh=t state in the wave-particle duality to exist in. Here's a nice quote from Dyson: "It would not be surprising that the =rigin and destiny of the energy in the universe cannot be completel= understood in isolation from the phenomena of life and consciousness--It is=conceivable---that life may have a larger role to play than we have imagined.=quot; "Life may have succeeded against all=C2 odds in molding a universe to its purposes. And the design of the ina=imate universe may not be as detached from the potentialities of life=and intelligence as scientists of the 20th century have ten=ed to suppose" 4. You say that choosing between materiali=t monism and consciousness monism isn't the point, but it is. Consciou=ness monism or "mind first" must show how mind turns into matter= Materialistic monism or "matter first" must do the opposite, demonstrating how matter can produce mind. Even though the &=uot;matter first" crowd are far ahead in scientific acceptance, in fa=t we see mind produce matter every time a synaptic gap is crossed by neuro=ransmitters or hormones are triggered by experience. A person who is phobic sees a spider and reacts violently at t=e level of stress hormones, elevated heart rate, elevated blood pressure, =tc. This physical state is entirely produced by a mental interpretation th=t a harmless insect is cause for panic. 5. I'm not sure about how you introduc= monism. There are famous Western monists among idealistic philosoph=rs who are a) not materialists and b) not" Eastern". Since "=monad" as a philosophical term is associated with Leibnitz, you'll see that it refers to an indivisible "substance," whi=h may seem materialistic, until you discover that one order of this substa=ce is the soul. "The basic order is three-tiered: (1) entelechies or created monads =§48), (2) souls or entelechies with perception and memory (§19),=and (3) spirits or rational souls (.582). 2013 Costa Del Mar Road Carlsbad, CA 92009 The Chopra Foundation <http://www.choprafoundation.org/> <http://w=w.choprafoundation.orgh =img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/l/SlryZ4SaSrl.._51500_55115_=jpg"> =br> <http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well-Being=dp/0804140B8/deepakchcom07- 20> =a href="http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-20" target="_blank">Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wel=being <http://ww..amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being/dp/0804140138/deepa=chcom07-20> 3 EFTA_R1_01560917 EFTA02457240 <=span> From: Michael Shermer Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:43:37 AM To: Deepak Chopra Subject: Re: My chapter on you No rush at all. My manuscript is not due for many months. Michael Michael Shermer Skeptic Magazine Scientific American P.O. Box 338 Altadena, CA 91001 www.skeptic.com Follow me on Facebook and Twitter: http:/=www.facebook.com/Michael.Brant.Shermer http://www..acebook.com/Skeptic.magazine http://twitter.com=MichaelShermer This private email message is for the sole use of the intended recipients= and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized publ=cation, broadcast, review, use, disclosure or distribution of its con=ent, substance or meaning, by email, social media or any other means, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient= contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies o= the original message. On Jul 14, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Deepak Chopra <mailto wrote:<=div> Thanks Michael I'm teaching a course b=t will address it ASAP 4 EFTA_R1_01560918 EFTA02457241 Do you have a deadline ? =A0 Love and thanks 2013 Costa Del Mar Road Carlsbad, CA 92009 The Chopra Foundation <http://www.choprafoundation.org/> <http://w=w.choprafoundation.ore> <http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/l/SlryZ4SaSrl__SLS00_SS115_=jpg> <http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-20> <http://www.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being=dp/0804140138/deepakchcom07-20> Super Genes: Unlock the Astonishing Power of Your DNA for Optimum Health and Wel=being chttp://ww=.amazon.com/Super-Genes-Astonishing-Optimum-Well- Being/dp/0804140138/deepa=chcom07-20> From: Michael Shermer Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:36:07 AM To: Deepak Chopra Subject: My chapter on you Hi Deepak, For my next book, Heavens on Earth, I have expanded that Scientific America= column into a full-length chapter. Could you do me a big favor and read i= and let me know if I have fairly represented your position and that of th= Eastern Wisdom Traditions? Please feel free to turn on the track changes and change the wording of how you w=uld say something, if you prefer. I used many sources: your emails, articl=s, blogs, talks, debates, books, etc. Or even my own words if I have misde=cribed what you believe or that of the Eastern Wisdom Traditions. please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this 5 EFTA_R1_01560919 EFTA02457242 communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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